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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read Plato's Symposium as a teen. It's a classic, obviously, but its totally f-ing weird. I'm a woman and as a teen, I basically learned about misogyny through Greek philosophy. In the Republic, Plato spends a lot of time comparing and contrasting women and tools, eventually concluding that tools, at least, are useful. Then he recommends a sort of Nazi program of taking men and women and having them have sex, then the babies would be raised by the state, in order to eliminate unfairness. Symposium talks a lot about having sex with children.

To this day, I am kind of grossed out by Greek philosophy. Aristotle is the most tolerable. But it's basically written by pedophiles who hate women. I mean, there's no way around it. I don't think it should be banned but I've also noticed that very few people have actually read it, and if you did, you might be over here "wtf-ing" with me. [/quote]

I have read Symposium too. I am not a fan. But there is no scenario in a free country that it should not be taught in a philosophy class in college to kids who choose to take that class. College should be about reading a bunch of different ideas - even if you are a STEM major.  That there is this type of censorship over curriculum and syllabus should worry everyone, regardless of political ideology [/quote]
DP. [b]Would you also agree that Mein Kampf, Irreversible Damage (by Abigail Shrier), and Jefferson Davis's manifesto on the inferiority of Black people should all be part of the curriculum? 
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As you are fully aware, every syllabus and curriculum represents choices of what to include and not include. Unless you're advocating a reading list literally millions of books long, you're very accepting of culling books from the syllabus. So, the idea that a book with sadistically criminal, antidemocratic, and hateful ideas has been "banned" and college kids have been impoverished because the limited space on a reading list was not devoted to it is just moronic. People like you are very able to comprehend this when books you don't like are excluded from the reading list, as Mein Kampf has been for generations without a peep from your type. Hiding behind exposure to "a bunch of different ideas" to advocate that a book glorifying pedophilia and the worst sort of misogyny means you are liar, a coward, and a clown, in addition to being a pedophile apologist and woman hater. Shame on you. [/quote]

I would. I would want to know what these people were thinking and saying. Just like I like the fact that when someone I knew was arguing "state's rights" being the issue for the Civil War I was able to look up the SC articles of secession and point out the first paragraph (after the intro sentence) to him. And yes, I would want to know that about Jefferson Davis and could have used it in that moment (the person I was arguing with was a black conservative). [/quote]

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