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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Smart move the transition from ICE vehicles will not be to traditional EVs like Teslas but to hydrogen powered vehicles. It won’t happen as quickly as many would like to see late 2060s or early 2070s but it will eventually happen. [/quote] This is ridiculous. Look at the issues with getting charging stations for EVs up and running and multiply those by 1,000 for hydrogen. Not to mention there is only like one model being produced now. I mean I could see some fleets using hydrogen but it will be forever before consumers are buying them. [/quote] Oil companies will transition to hydrogen production and distribution. Existing gas stations will phase into hydrogen charging stations. [/quote] There is no naturally occurring source of hydrogen. Almost all of it is derived from natural gas or other hydrocarbons. To make hydrogen, you must use electricity. Far more efficient to either burn the hydrocarbons or use the electricity directly. There is no net energy in hydrogen and huge handling issues. It will never work.[/quote] "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt". You should have paid attention to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_hydrogen "Modeling suggests that enough natural hydrogen exists to meet humanity's demand for hydrogen for thousands of years"[/quote] lol too expensive! Hydrogen per gallon price equivalent to a gallon of gas is $30. The problem you do not understand is EVs are 91-94% efficient. That is 3-4 times more efficient vs burning fossil fuels or hydrogen made from natural gas. The US is already generating 43% of it electricity from NG. If NG increases by $1 this winter your electricity bill will increase by 25%. Now you want to use NG to make hydrogen? There is no carbon saving, it’s more expensive and increase demand will increase electricity prices. Sounds like a great plan! [/quote] Yet every major oil company is heavily investing in hydrogen production. Electricity production will go nuclear, hydrogen cars will piss water a much needed commodity in states like CA. [/quote]
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