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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]According to disability rights advocates she’s making a lifestyle choice. As long as she’s not suicidal or homicidal she can’t be committed in most states. Most folks like this are kept in American jails. 10 times as many people with serious mental illness are in jails rather than hospitals today.

Realistically she’d be under court ordered treatment for whatever it is. It’s a huge human tragedy.[/quote]
I’m not sure how they argued someone not of sound mind is making a lifestyle choice.  Awful to hear. [/quote]

It really doesn't logically make sense but disability rights advocates I suppose fear that involuntary commitment will be worse. They reason some (or most) insane asylums were places where a lot of abuses happened so no one should be forced to take medication or be committed against their will. It is awful to see women in this condition who are so out of it they are probably being repeatedly sexually assaulted on the streets.

So the only thing the disability advocates lobby for is free housing no strings attached and voluntary out patient care. But if you are too mentally ill to realize you need care then how are you supposed to go seek care?

So the answer is you do nothing because nothing ends up being done if anyone actually responds. [/quote]
The answer here would be to improve mental health facilities and have strict regulations for them. Not allow people to rot on the streets because they’re too mentally ill to access any help. [/quote]

Strangely enough part of the issue is as someone mentioned disability rights. Under many circumstances those who are mentally ill can refuse help and you can only do forced help for limited time. That person could even have a family who did everything they could legally. [/quote]
Under this logic we should allow suicidal people to go forward with their suicide plans. [/quote]

Yeah it's interesting. That is where the red line is. If that same person threatens suicide and has a plan or threatens homicide and has a plan then they can be hospitalized. It's slowly killing yourself through choices that doesn't qualify that easily. It's very sad and very complicated. It's painful for families too who want to help.

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