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[quote=Anonymous]I see it, OP.  I have had kids in private and public school and am currently homeschooling with one.  I went to public K-12 in a middle class district, graduated 2000. It is very different.  My parents weren’t involved at all- no reading, no math facts, etc.  No one supplemented outside of school that I know of.  There was no Kumon or RMS.  Yet we all went to college well-prepared.  I remember being drilled on math facts at school, I remember doing book reports, essays starting in upper el, reading lots of books, writing definitions, having real science labs starting in 5th grade, having knowledgeable teachers in social studies/history that would lecture the whole class time- yet it was wildly engaging- it was as if they were telling a story.  We had homework most nights pretty much from 4th grade on, and a significant amount from middle school on.  There were no distractions or disruptions in class.  There really weren’t. My teenagers literally don’t believe me when I tell them no one flipped desks, swore at teachers, talked back/refused to do what teacher said, etc.

In contrast, schools do seem to be about providing social services now.  Free food, health care, mental health, childcare.  I volunteer and many, many middle schoolers do not even know math facts.  How is this possible? Many can’t read above a very basic level (3-4th grade).  Even with zero parent involvement- being at school daily for 7 hrs a day, how is this the outcome?

From being in the schools, my guesses are it’s a combo of student apathy (they just don’t care, neither do parents), EdTech, low expectations, little direct instruction from teacher, no homework to reinforce learning (and for teacher to asses learning regularly), no handwriting, too much focus outside of core subjects, and behavior gone wild [/quote]

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