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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I suspect Williams and Amherst would like to require testing but don’t want to mess w their rankings. [/quote]

I bet they don’t. How has it hurt them? How did it help them before?[/quote]

1. a lot of highly selective colleges dont actually want a zillion apps. this is why there's a trend of not releasing admissions rate. it's a bad look politically, it puts qualified people from applying, it's a burden to the college

2. they risk letting in kids who can't do the work. faculty almost always wants to go back to testing for a reason[/quote]

[b]I think maybe 10 highly selective schools don’t want a zillion apps[/b]. The brands that kids like to take flyers on. Very small group. And this risk of “kids who can’t do the work” is such a spurious argument. First off, even when some schools produce data saying TO kids don’t perform as well, they are usually a few tenths of GPA points lower. Not flunking out. Second, if a school was committed to TO and spent the time reviewing admissions result. How kids performed over time, and perfecting TO practices they could totally do it. Bowdoin doesn’t seem to have a problem with retention/graduation rates. These are just straw man arguments from people who think test scores should pretty much be outcome determinative. [/quote]

agree, but also agree that includes Williams and Amherst

also, the data seems mixed. Bowdoin found one thing. Dartmouth found another. MIT found another. 
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