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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was ready to say, "Wow, I guess I won't be going to Tunisia, even though that's on my bucket list", but now that I ve read the whole article, I think I'm good to go there still.

That guy was really dumb to do that. Yes, the punishment is harsh.  But, do you remember the case where that young man was caned simply for spitting gum on the street in Singapore? But that’s the law there and it applied equally to everybody.

When in Rome, people!  Just don’t tempt fate, that’s all.[/quote]

Wow. Some of you really will make excuses for anything. The law and what is just and moral are not the same thing. No one should die for a Facebook post, law or not. [/quote]

No one seems that concerned about the UK putting people in prison for Facebook posts. If people post racist things, they go to jail. I'd venture to say that most democrats support that. And if you support that, then you're okay with criminalizing speech in general, even if you balk at the death sentence. [/quote]

What about my comment would lead you to assume I'm okay with criminalizing speech? I don't think people should go to jail for saying racist crap on Facebook. I think they should get called an a$$hole to their face, and I won't talk when they get their a$$ kicked. But I do not support the State executing or failing people for speech. So stop it with your gotcha BS. This is wrong and you know it. [/quote]

Let me ask you something. If someone made a really racist tweet, do you think that is a crime, eg hate speech? It seems democrats commonly believe offensive speech ia criminal and that the government has an obligation to protect people from offensive or "harmful" speech (like vaccine skepticism, comments critical of transgender ideology etc). Democrats are completely okay with, for example, DHS giving guidelines to social media platforms about what speech should and shouldn't be allowed. Right? Or am I completely wrong here and you guys think conservative speech should be allowed on the internet now?[/quote]

You're grouping a lot of different things that to me and many democrats would be handled differently. I believe in absolute freedom as far as your freedoms don't infringe on someone else's freedoms. So being critical of "transgender ideology" is protected, albeit bigoted speech. You shouldn't be jailed, but are not protected from social consequences. Inciting violence against transgender people is not protected speech, and could get you in trouble with the law depending on the severity.

Spreading misinformation, like anti-vax propaganda cannot be allowed because it endangers people. Children are dying of preventable diseases because their parents are morons who have been taken in by this crap. People who knowingly spread misinformation should absolutely face legal consequences.

So yes, you are wrong. I have no problem with conservative speech being allowed on the internet. I take issue with speech that endangers people. And I take issue with the government trying to curb speech that is merely critical but not dangerous. A lot of conservatives play hopscotch with that line, unfortunately. [/quote]

Okay, who gets to decide what is misinformation?  For example, early in the covid vaccination era, women were reporting disruptions to their cycle after getting the vaccine.  I experienced this myself, and paid attention to it, but when I read that this was a common phenomenon after the covid vaccine, I wasn't concerned.  When I went to my obgyn and she asked if I had any irregular bleeding and I said yes, but it was around the time of my covid vaccine.  She told me that information about women having cycle changes due to the vaccine was misinformation.  Yet, she also declined to do any testing to determine if there were any other explanations.

It's now pretty well established that, like many things, the covid vaccine caused some minor changes to many women's cycles, like it did mine.  That was considered misinformation at the time, despite the fact that 1) knowing this was a common reaction was helpful for me to be able to assess the nature of my changes, and 2) there really wasn't enough run time on a large population to even know whether it would affect women's cycles.

So this is illustrative of why I disagree with democrats that people should go to prison for "vaccine misinformation" when the nature of "truth" around these issues seems more policy-driven than science driven.  They didn't want anyone to notice the effect on the cycles because they thought it would deter women from getting the vaccine, so they suppressed the information which is now widely regarded as true.  It's crazy to me to throw people in jail for saying things like "I think my vaccine caused vaginal bleeding" and it's dangerous to suppress this kind of medical information, even if anecdotal.[/quote]

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