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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a daughter in that age group and for some reason she has the impression that MoCo is really toxic so wont try out there.  Maybe she knows someone on the one team that PP mentioned is toxic?  Or maybe her friend is just a complainer?  Not clear to me.  This is probably worth about as much as a bad Yello review so take it for what it is. [/quote]

It is toxic. A few of the coaches are good but most are mid and a few are really bad and foster toxic environments. They are pretty open about who their favorites are on most teams and just tell all many of the other girls who are already on their teams that aside from practices and tournaments during club season, they should pay for private lessons from the owners. [/quote]

We've played at a number of different clubs. MOCO wasn't toxic for us (especially compared to our earlier club). Never had a coach tell us that they needed to pay for private lessons from the owners -- especially since the owner generally runs clinics and does very few if any private lessons.

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That's good, there have been many who've posted in the last few years about having decent seasons with them.  Both things can be true: some families and teams can have a good time and a good experience; and overall there can still be horrible communication with parents, lots of favoritism, and on some teams very bad coaches and/or a toxic environment.  The tough thing is if you haven't played with them before and don't know the coaches when you try out, you've got no way of knowing which experience you're going to have.  No club is perfect, but some are way way better than others and have much better coaches and much better cultures.  And are often a lot harder to get onto as well.[/quote]
+1 to both things being true.  Any club with hundreds of players is bound to have someone that is upset with them at some point. Eventually you have to look at the general trend and hope your specific team works out well.  This was discussed on some other threads and one of the biggest indicators of issues at a club is how many players leave of their own choice every year.  The comparison between Metro and Paramount was eye opening, with Paramount losing something like half of their players going in to last season and apparently the culture was a big driver of the exits.

Living on the MD side we've had experience with MEVC, MOCO and MVSA. All three clubs are hard to get into and all three seem to keep a lot of their players every year. I don't know the numbers but I'd bet all three clubs keep 70%+ of their players. That can make it hard to make a team if you are coming from the outside but it also shows the majority of players liked those clubs enough to stay.[/quote]

Not true at all on those 3 keeping the majority of players because they want to stay.  We have personal experience with MVSA and MOCO. MVSA most players definitely want to stay with because they win the most and have a better culture than most (and are pretty affordable on top of winning so much).  The majority of those staying at MOCO tried out for other clubs every year, and would've jumped ship if they had a good choice but didn't get other offers. If they got another offer the next year, they were gone.  MEVC is the one we know the least about personally.[/quote]

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