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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are so many parents who tell me our DD got into Northwestern because she did ED but their child didn’t get in because of RD. DD is not an athlete and not full pay. We get about 50% of her bill paid by non student loan aid by NU.

Is it really THAT much easier to get in ED for a student like ours? She also competed with very good students who were on the ball about applying early.

I feel that sometimes people use not EDing as an excuse for why their child doesn’t get an acceptance. Wdyt?[/quote]

Yes ED at T15 is often easier than RD based on our naviance which removes legacy and athlete hooks.
-ED is MUCH easier (GPA a full decile lower, as in borderline T20%, SAT 1450s) than RD for UChicago, WashU, Vandy and Columbia 
-mildly but visibly easier (ie half a decile as in borderline top10% or outside,  not top 5%, 1500+)at Northwestern, Duke, JHU, Cornell, Dartmouth Amherst
-a wash/not significantly easier for Penn, Brown, Wiliiams (ED and RD acceptances overlap, all top 5%/1520+)

Competitive private that sends 8-10% to T15ish[/quote]

Almost exact same at our NYC selective public feeder that sends about 25% to T15ish. ED does not help at Penn or Brown and early admissions at HYP is always a s**tshow. High stats + unhooked kids have to decide whether to hold out for the RD Ivy lottery ticket, or take the very likely ED acceptance to one of those slightly lower tier schools (unlike at many privates, the school will not make that call for you). Some kids use ED2 at Chicago or JHU as a way to meet in the middle (shoot your SCEA shot, then take the easier route). And a fair number who hold out for RD wind up at Cornell, which is not a terrible outcome, obviously.

I would disagree as far as the GPA/SAT for Chicago, Columbia, WashU etc. At our school they are identical to those who win the upper-Ivy lottery. The difference is hooks and ECs. [/quote]

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