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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]all missing the point - it’s for athletic admits [/quote] No, it isn't. The Academic Index system always allowed them to admit athletes with lower SAT scores, even under test-required. That's why it hasn't been an impediment for the Ivies that have gone back to requiring tests. It's for FGLI and URM. Princeton is uniquely focused among the top schools on getting FGLI and URM students, and TO enables them to do so without having to worry about the data showing that the scoring profile of such students is much lower. [/quote] If that is an important mission for the school and they are serious about achieving it, good for them. If you are against supporting FGLI or URM students, then Princeton does not seem like a good fit for you.[/quote] It’s not good that Princeton is now basically closed to unhooked, very high-achieving white MC and UMC kids with great test scores. It’s why folks like Rufo are going after the school and most of America won’t care if it gets taxed into oblivion. [/quote] So, you are assuming that the URMs at Princeton don't have great test scores. :roll: My URM child who is an engineering major at Princeton scored 1590 (800 Math) on his SAT and 5s on all of his 15 AP exams. My child took Differential Equations and Linear Algebra and received As from both courses during his senior year of high school. During high school he won national awards in history, science, math, engineering, and music. All of the URMs that I know at Princeton especially those in STEM are high achieving students. The curriculum at Princeton is rigorous. It is not the type of institution for students who need their hands hold especially for those in engineering, physics, or other STEM related courses. Princeton is not for the weak. Trust me, no child in my family is afraid of rigor. My oldest attended MIT and Oxford (1600 SAT). My second child attended Standford (1590 SAT). The middle child is at Princeton. My youngest who is currently a junior in high school just scored 1580 on the August SAT. She has her eyes focused on Princeton. I tell you this because my URM children are high achieving. It is pure racism to equate being a minority with low achieving. I pray that Princeton reinstates their SAT requirement for admission so that the achievements of black and brown students are not questioned by racists. This is why I don't bother on DCUM forum anymore because of the rampant racism and bigotry from individuals like you. I am not going down the rabbit hole with bigots tonight. Nope, I am not going to entertain you while you disparaged minority students. You will not kill or steal my joy. This will be my last post on this topic and this evening. As I settled down this evening and go over my high schooler's AP Physics C Mechanics homework and music for her Mozart Requiem concert this autumn, I will leave you with Dr. Angelou's word of advice. https://youtu.be/JqOqo50LSZ0?si=YjidjLkhKwfUyefC [/quote] Holy humblebrag, Batman. But I think you are making the point. Your kids 100% deserve to be there based on academics (I will assume they have some personality to go with the grades and test scores and don't walk around with the giant chip on their shoulder that you seem to have). Unfortunately, there are too many kids who get in because they checked a box (this is not just a racial thing - applies to football players, etc). These kids are generally far from dumb. But they are often a notch below. So since there is a critical mass of them, it is not unreasonable for someone to see a similar kid and assume that that kid was less qualified because there is a decent probability that they are. [b]If this priority admission went away or was minimized, the questions about your child's qualifications would go away.[/b] Unfortunately for now, your child has to go the extra mile to prove they are who they are.[/quote] No. it wouldn’t. History that says otherwise.[/quote]
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