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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/09/22/the-prestige-hierarchy-five-universities-trained-one-of-every-eight-tenure-track-faculty-at-doctoral-universities/

The Top 5 are

1. Harvard 
2. University of California 
3. University of Wisconsin 
4. Stanford 
5. University of Michigan

Ok, at least two I would expect on there, Harvard and Stanford. Michigan and Wisconsin are the shockers. Cal you see a lot, but I would honesty think MIT or Princeton.

Michigan acts like it’s Harvard, and I suspect its professional programs contribute a ton to its rankings. Wisconsin you do see a lot of faculty ( especially at Ivy League schools) but I almost assumed it’s a fluke ( I.e. they got rejected from a PhD at Cal or Harvard and went to Madison instead).

I’ll never understand how state universities, especially in insignificant states like Wisconsin, can be held in such high regard. It’s essentially an endorsement of the Wisconsin state government. I was just having a convo about UVa law the other day: its high ranking is essentially an endorsement on the state of Virginia itself. If you’re born in Virginia, you essentially have a leg-up to becoming a great jurists or big law partner. If you’re born in Wisconsin, you have a leg-up to becoming a PHD professor.[/quote]

Wisconsin's econ program is better than Harvard's. [/quote]

Who’s getting a PHD in 2025 anyway? It’s the 21st century, professional schools ( JD/MBA ) rule. Even Harvard’s PHD students have horrible prospects. It’s the Harvard business school where the future is. [/quote]

This post is even dumber than the original post.

The PhD is a research oriented degree that is needed to train academics, professors, medical researchers, etc. experts on any subject matter.

Professional degrees serve a purpose but the PhD has an important role.[/quote]

Research is currently dead in the US. Good luck to anyone getting that degree.

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True.  And one of the most harmful and sad aspects of this administration.  I wonder if people really understand the impact of cancelled research and phd programs.  We were a world leader in scientific research, and almost overnight it’s gone.  It is heartbreaking.  [/quote]

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