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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, do they need a calculator? I'd ask the prof.  I didn't use one for those classes.

Because of cheating risks, all my calc professors prohibited the use of calculators.[/quote]

Are you serious? A graphing calculator is required for AP Calculus BC.

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Depends. College board has gone to 100% desmos on the exam. If the teacher is utilizing that in class, a graphing calculator isn't really needed.[/quote]

Nor really. Calculators are still allowed. Why take the risk when it’s allowed and can help with the exam? This is ridiculously bad advice.

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/exam-policies-guidelines/calculator-policies[/quote]

I'm an AP calc teacher. The kids can use their calculators for basic computations if they want, but all the visual stuff is in desmos now. I'm not wasting time with complex button sequences on a 1992 operating system and graphical display that somehow still costs over $100. So to that end, I don't care what calculator they bring in. I can't speak to multivar, my school doesn't have that.[/quote]

No, you’re not an AP Calc teacher. This is so typical DCUM, to exaggerate credential to have more credibility, so annoying!

Every AP math class has a graphing calculator usage activity. TI-84 is standard, and you can follow your teacher, or get whatever you’re want, but you’ll have to get familiar with how to do things on your own.

Contrary to what random clueless people are saying, Desmos is not good enough.

Look up resources on YouTube, turkvids is one of them. It’s helpful to know your way around a calculator, especially for time constraint exams like the APs.[/quote]

Okay. I really am an AP Calc teacher, despite what you want to believe. This is only my third year teaching it, but I’ve taught high school math for two decades. A TI 84+ color edition would be my recommendation if you are going to buy something brand new. The inspire will be overly complicated and in my experience really frustrates kids. If you want something that’s not TI I would do numworks.

My students have a class set of old gray 84s from a million years ago, and use them when I don’t want to deal with laptops for simple calculations. I have no idea what they have at home. Desmos is integrated into AP classroom, is included in the blue book lockdown browser that teachers give tests in, and does everything needed for the AP exam. I went to another APSI this summer, and the presenters were strongly pushing Desmos. Our AP pre-Calc teachers taught with it last year, so kids are coming to AP calculus already knowing how to do everything foundational in it. I’m not going to start over teaching functionality that they already know how to do in a different system.

But really, ask the teacher. It doesn’t matter what I say, or what online parents say. It matters how your kid’s teacher is teaching the class. If they aren’t doing exams through AP classroom you’ll absolutely need something else.[/quote]

See, this is a mature response. The other poster sounds like a crackpot and needs to calm down. If they have any real criticism of Desmos, then why don't they explain it here in terms everyone can understand.
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Are you still sick puppeting pretending you’re a teacher?

Desmos is great for graphing but is nowhere close to the capability of computer algebra system calculators like TI-Nspire. Of course one can do things just fine in Desmos, but also take advantage to the max of allowed technology, especially if aiming for a 5.

I’d take the expertise of AP teachers with a grain of salt. I’ve seen my share of incompetent teachers that heavily rely on rote memorization, or that are simply unfit for teaching an advanced class.

If you’re confused by the menu in TINspire, then either look for a different job as a teacher or you have no business in that class as a student.

OP question was on what calculator to buy for advanced classes like Multivariable and BC. Get the top of the line for a few extra bucks. Use it to get familiar, and spend a day learning useful tips and tricks. It really helps for the calculator allowed questions.

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Can you stop being so weird? You've been responding to at least two different posters. I know, because I'm one of them and didn't post the other responses.
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Then stop pretending to be something you’re not.[/quote]

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