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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was surprised to learn most Western Europeans makes well under 50k EUR per year even with high levels of education. Is it worth it to make 1/5 an American for the same job just for some free healthcare (which we get at our jobs anyway) and education?

How is Europe supposedly more egalitarian than the US when the only way to become well off is to inherit money? You can be full of drive and ambition over there and still live the same life as a cashier because everyone is forced into the same mediocre existence.[/quote]

In the US the only people I know who got ahead have massive help from their parents. A college education costs in the tens to hundreds of thousands and is the bare minimum to get a decent job. Then there’s a housing crisis, so many people get down payment help. Generational wealth is the only way UMC Americans can stay that way.

Without a massive “inheritance” it’s pretty much impossible for anyone to achieve upward mobility in the United States.

The difference is that Americans pretend that they “earned” everything since the hundreds of thousands in inheritance is spread out as gifts for education and housing. It’s such a delusional mindset.

Whereas in Europe, universities take the highest ranked students. Nobody cares about college sports because there are private clubs to cultivate professional athletes. European Universities don’t turn away a top engineering student to make space for a mediocre rich kid with a nice tennis swing (who has zero chance of playing professionally.)

If anything, the US has been rewarding [b]mediocrity for the past 50 years and we’re finally starting to reap what we sow[/b]. 
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I read the bolded first and quickly and thought you were going to support the opposite - that the US is exceptional.

What you wrote isn’t supported by really any quantitative measures especially not GDP and the number of technologies and innovation from this country. We have the strongest military in the world and the entire planet is relying on our technology to conduct business.

I’d argue European universities don’t offer sports because they can’t afford to. There is limited funding and college is way more basic than here. Ignoring this, the American university system is excellent and highly regarded.

Your post makes me sad and I think you’re brainwashed. There are many terrible things about our country and ways we need to improve, but there are also some ways we are exceptional. [/quote]

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