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Look at the 14-1, 15-1 and 16-1 makeups for this year compared to their rosters last year:
- 2025 16-1, 6 new players, 7 returning. [i]No players moved up from 15-2 to 16-1.[/i]
- 2025 15-1, 7 new players, 7 returning. [i]No players moved up from 14-2 to 15-1.[/i]
- 2025 14-1, 9 new players, 6 returning. [i]No players move up from 13-2 to 14-1[/i]
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I want to respond to this analysis because it is being quoted by some on this board as evidence that Paramount do not develop their players from their second teams.

Here are regional rankings for Paramont first and second teams since their second teams were created:
2022-2023
14-1 1
14-2 22

2023-2024
12-1 2
12-2 31
13-1 4
13-2 10
14-1 1
14-2 8
15-1 2
15-2 19

2024-2025
12-1 4
12-2 9
13-1 3
13-2 5
14-1 3
14-2 10
15-1 2
15-2 3
16-1 1
16-2 33

[b]Based on the quoted analysis, nobody from 13-2, 14-2, 15-2 moved up to 14-1, 15-1, 16-1. That's pretty simple to explain. 13-2 was ranked 10th, 14-2 8th, and 15-2 19th, many places below their first teams. [/b]

However, based on this year's numbers,
13-1 3
13-2 5
15-1 2
15-2 3
It is likely that next year 14-1 may include 13-2 players and 16-1 may include 15-2 players because their second teams are very close to their first teams.

It is a fact that many of Paramount's second teams are getting better and better every year, and now their first and second teams are both in the top 10 in the region in 12, 13, 14, and 15 age groups. They could not get here by not developing their second teams.

I'm not related to Paramount. I'm just an observer of the volleyball clubs in the DMA area. Metro's travel teams are the best, but Paramount is catching up. The numbers are clear.[/quote]
Setting aside the fact that AES is not a reliable ranking system, using strictly regional rankings makes your analysis even weaker. Clubs like Paramount only go to enough regional tournaments to qualify for bid regionals. They likely only have a small number of matches against regional teams, many of which are against fairly weak opponents. If you’re going to draw any conclusions from AES (which is suspect at best), at least click the “Show National Ranks” checkbox which will use a ranking based on a much larger set of results.

Putting aside AES issues, the quoted analysis was showing instances where large numbers of players left the 1s team and none of the new players added to the roster in the following year (an age group higher) were from the 2s program. This shows that if the 2s programs was intended as a training ground to develop players and give them an opportunity to move up to the 1s team, that’s not what’s happening. It also shows that Paramount is heavily reliant on players trained elsewhere to form their 1s teams. In addition to be super concerning that so many players are not moving up with a team from one season to the next, the fact that Paramount is so reliant on players trained elsewhere for their 1s team doesn’t support the idea that they are developing players over the long term.[/quote]

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