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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's news to me that Asia has better bread than Europe or the US. I like the milk bread of East Asia but is someone seriously claiming there's better sourdough and artisanal bread in Asia now?

I do like and even prefer Japanese style French patisseries as it's less rich and less sweet but not sure if I'd ever call it "better." It's just a different interpretation.

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Nah fam. You need go travel more.  Literally the best breads I've had in my life were in Japan and South Korea. And I've been all over Europe. I don't think you truly understand the extreme to which people in Japan, for example, will take their craft.  These kinds of places are all over Japan and South Korea now:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/cOK3nS4t7_Y?si=RM4fniXWycMkQaOX[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/z8BfqAXcVMk?si=n5caiUj6y0HhkVpU[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QKs58zvTaRs?si=OXb_BoacIN1MvJMo[/youtube]

And yes, without question they're better at making bread than the US. No, we aren't talking about stereotypical milk breads etc.  We are talking about rustic sourdough to baguettes.

God, it is so obvious Americans don't travel much outside the western world.  It may shock people to learn that the world huge, and that yes, people in Asia eat fantastic western foods too and that they are capable of making it even better than westerners themselves because they put tons of effort into honing the craft once they learn western techniques and dishes.[/quote]

Most Americans never travel outside of North America, actually, and the primary reasons are that it's very expensive. If they travel internationally, Europe and South and Central America are far closer and more affordable than Asia. Traveling to Asia for most Americans is simply an impossibility. It's not a lack of interest. Keep in mind Americans get a tiny amount of vacation time (and are discouraged from using all of it), must pay for college themselves, must save for their own retirement, and have some of the highest individual healthcare costs in the world. Scoffing that such people aren't hopping on planes to Japan is far more ignorant than an American not knowing about the bread-making skills of certain bakers in Asia.

When you travel in Asia, do you mock the many, many people there who have never traveled outside their home country? I bet they love it when you leave.[/quote]

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