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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Probably only getting rehabilitative alimony because of credentials and 15 years marriage. This is why I would not ever give up my job. You will need to start at the bottom again. Good luck OP.[/quote] I would appreciate advice about starting at the bottom. I have tried and I am getting the feedback (indirectly, not from the hiring managers because pretty sure that would be illegal) that [b]my experience isn’t the right fit and they would rather have a cohesive team, train from the beginning, etc. [/b] Is there an industry or specific fields that are open to experienced hires basically starting from scratch? The only suggestions I’ve received so far are substitute teaching and working towards certification, and at this point it seems like it may be my only option.[/quote] This is just code for "you're too old" and is straight up age discrimination, but it would be hard to prove. There's nothing wrong with teaching, but you can find something more relevant to your background. Keep looking.[/quote] In this job market? You need to get a teaching job asap before all the laid off Feds and tech workers scoop them up. [/quote] DP. Can we stop throwing teaching around as some easy, readily available option? Teaching isn’t remotely easy, nor are most people prepared to simply jump into the classroom. It does a disservice to students and to existing teachers, who have to give up their precious planning time to cover classes when others quit. If you’re genuinely interested in the work to become a strong teacher, then that’s a different sorry. But I think you’ll find it a short-lived backup career.[/quote] OP and our kid’s former school, a private, was constantly begging for substitutes and would even include it in the August/September back to school information for parents. I didn’t mean to say that it was an easy job that anyone could just waltz into, but clearly there is active recruiting going on for people with other professional experience if I’m hearing it both from that school and from people in my network. There haven’t been any other jobs I’ve encountered that are proactively inviting inexperienced 40-somethings to apply. If I don’t apply for that job in principle, I don’t think it will do anything to prevent devaluation of education, sadly. My first two degrees are in STEM and my board experience is concentrated in education and school governance, so that’s probably why people’s suggestions for me have trended that way. [/quote] There’s a reason we are recruiting so heavily: it’s because people are quitting at record rates. Even people traditionally trained as teachers aren’t keeping up with the demands of the classroom, so we are expanding the recruitment pool in an effort to fill positions. I am a career changer who came into the classroom through an alternative education program. I thought I knew what I was getting into, but I was woefully unprepared for the classroom. I had two advanced degrees and college teaching experience, so I thought I’d transition easily. Many career changers quit. I’ve been at this long enough now to see patterns. [b]The ones who make it are the ones who are generally up for the challenge.[/b] The ones who came because it’s an available job quickly realize it’s not for them. And that’s what I’d like to avoid: the midyear empty classroom that the remaining teachers need to split and cover. [/quote] What does this even mean? Is it hardship Olympics? Everyone has experience in a classroom as a student, so what is the unexpected challenges that are derailing careers?[/quote] I have experience in an operating room and a lawyer’s office. Guess I’m ready for both of those careers! Is that how this works? When you were a student, you were responsible for YOU. As a teacher, you are directly responsible for 150 teenagers… many of whom aren’t interested in what you have to deliver. You are responsible for their performance and you evaluated on how well they learn. When you were a student, you got to passively sit. As a teacher, you’ll be presenting for 5+ hours a day. And it better be engaging and personally applicable to a variety of learners. As a student, you were given time to get work done. As a teacher, you receive about 45 minutes a day to: 1. Plan all of your lessons 2. Grade many papers — with comments 3. Respond to ~25 parent/admin emails 4. Update records and check IEP accommodations. (Screwing that up is BAD!!) 5. Eat lunch and visit the bathroom The environment is overstimulating and exhausting. You live by the bell. Didn’t get around to planning your lesson last night? Oh, well! The students show up at 8:12 anyway… and don’t be surprised if 4-5 administrators visit to do an observational walk-through. They’ll want you to explain why 2 students in the 3rd row were watching Netflix, 1 student was sleeping and 4 students weren’t wearing their IDs. These are all marks against you. (And I haven’t even touched the violence in classrooms, the aggressive parents…) [/quote] Don't forget all of the BS trainings they make you do that they don't give you time to complete. Add in some BS PDs that waste your time. Going to IEP, SST, and 504 meetings too. [/quote]
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