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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Separate but related note

What makes MAGA so selfish and resistant to facts?  Like how can some humans care about others and some have zero empathy and zero facts and be so oddly short-sighted?

Serious question [/quote]

Many reasons - Many conservatives resist climate action due to tribalism, industry influence, and ideological framing.

Tribal loyalty trumps facts: Climate science is politicized, with figures like Trump clinging to outdated myths (e.g. 1970s-era solar inefficiency, “windmills kill whales”) and cherry-picked tidbits like bird deaths, ignoring fossil fuels’ far greater impact.

Industry-funded doubt: Fossil fuel interests bankroll think tanks to sow skepticism, framing emergent clean technologies as threats - even though wind and solar create jobs, boost energy independence, and grow the economy.

Media distortion: Right-leaning media amplifies fear, uncertainty, and ridicule, painting climate advocates as elitist alarmists and reinforcing feedback loops of denial.

Distrust of regulation: Climate policy is viewed as a Trojan horse for government overreach. But nature doesn’t care about borders - atmospheric physics don’t bend to sovereignty or ideology.

Scientific illiteracy: Words like “theory” are misconstrued as guesswork, and models dismissed as speculation, despite decades of empirical validation.

Empathy gap and short-sightedness: Impacts are seen as distant, abstract or irrelevant, with little concern for future generations or vulnerable communities.

Reactionary backlash: For some, opposing climate action is just another way to “own the libs” - even if the fallout hits everyone.[/quote]

Thank you for this.

What does religion have to do with climate change?  I'm not Christian - does Christianity advocate for putting toxic chemicals into the air and water and food supply?  Is this why they brainwash kids to want these things too?  I can't imaging that any God would tell the followers to go out of their way to kill as many people/animals/plants as possible by poisoning them.  Certainly the God of my religion doesn't want that (as far as I can tell), but I'm not familiar with the Christian concept of God. Please elaborate.

What does MAGA gain from climate change?  Like why do they want climate change so badly?  I understand the decision makers at the top gain money from the fossil fuel industry so there is that short term selfish gain, although they are sacrificing their children for more money than can even be spent.  But what does the rest of MAGA gain from denying climate change?  It seems to me all they get is "owning the libs" which is just bizarrely stupid bc MAGA population will die off first.  So they would rather die and have their children die just to "own the libs" rather than be gainfully employed, healthy, and with clean water/air?

Distrust of regulation - Ok, I kinda see that perspective, but then why is regulation around food dye accepted or regulation around abortion ok, or govt regulation around what you can and cannot say accepted (regulating free speech, banning books,etc)?  Throws the "I don't like regulation of climate policy" argument out the window.

So, it seems all we are left with is the fossil fuel industry paying decision maker politicians and paying off "religious" leaders to make policy in their favor and convince the masses to support their industry... oh and owning the libs.   :shock: [/quote]

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