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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Conservatives and MAGA are different.

Conservatives have always backed Ukraine. They hate Russia and Putin. They believe the US has a duty to assist Ukraine because we agreed to that years ago when they gave up their nukes.

MAGA are the ones who believe Ukraine started the war and that Putin isn't that bad of a guy.  [/quote]

Conservatives are the kind of people that support the party that legalized gay marriage while banning churches.

Its why MAGA took over and conservatives are an endangered species.[/quote]

I'm from the deep south. I have lots of conservative relatives and a quite a few MAGA as well. The conservative relatives are becoming more and more dismayed by the state of the GOP. They are all very anti-MAGA and anti-Trump. All did vote for Trump his first go around but didn't vote for him in 2020 or this past election.

I believe the count was 50/50 at Thanksgiving on which republican family members voted for Harris and which abstained from voting for a presidential pick. Those who are strict party line voters abstained (mostly the older Repubs in my family) and the younger ones were more open to voting for Harris to try to keep Trump out of office.

My family has always had lively, civil talks about politics at family gatherings but after Trump's first term and the birth of MAGAs in the family, we had to put a no politics rule into effect. It seems like once they become MAGA, the most hateful part of their brain gets activated and they say the most vile things. We only did the "who'd you vote for?" poll at Thanksgiving this year before the MAGA relatives arrived because we knew who they voted for and we didn't want to open the door for any political discussion with them. [/quote]

What you say completely dovetails with the accusation that a conservative is a democrat from x years ago.

The only reason I can see why a conservative would support Ukraine is because they see them losing just a little bit more each day and they see a kindred spirit in that slow and steady defeat.[/quote]

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