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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With Michigan State, I don't recall alumni and students coming to the defense of the perpetrators. It was universal revulsion.

At Penn State, their football-obsessed alumni spent years defending the perpetrators, especially Joe Paterno the coach who facilitated and protected Sandusky. And it wasn't just a few crazed fans, but was a majority opinion for years among alumni in surveys. That's the troubling legacy at Penn State.

And of course, it is a lackluster school academically. [/quote]Oh, please. You're conflating Sandusky and Paterno in order to smear Penn State alumni. Sandusky was immediately and universally condemned. A lot of people wanted to believe Paterno when he said he had no idea what Sandusky was up to. That was almost certainly wishful thinking, but it wasn't facially implausible for anyone whose familiarity with the matter was limited to a few headlines. Paterno had been an institution at the school for decades, with a glowing reputation. Of course it took longer for a lot of people to accept that he knew and failed to stop or report it.[/quote]WTH?  Why are you minimizing Paterno's role?  Former FBI Director Louis Freeh led a comprehensive investigation into child abuse at Penn State and reported on more than a decade of very active involvement by Paterno in "actively concealing" the child abuse by his top coach and friend. It's page after page of detail about Paterno's role.  But here we are almost a decade later and Penn State alumni continue to push to revive Paterno's godlike role at Penn State.  Beyond messed up.  [/quote]Try reading the chain again. Nobody's trying to minimize Paterno's role or rehabilitate his rep. You're the one who implied there was no "universal revulsion" at Penn State when there absolutely was, and immediately--to Sandusky; it took longer with Paterno for obvious reasons. You can't seriously expect the initial reaction to the two to be the same. And it's pretty rich to suggest coverup by and everlasting taint to the broader university community in reliance on a report commissioned by the Penn State Board of Trustees.[/quote]You're just proving my point. And the Paterno defenders still downplay what happened--to this day. Paterno's otherwise completely unqualified son was elected to the board by the alumni--by the most votes ever received by any board candidate--for the first time, and multiple times since then, to try to restore Joe Paterno's reputation. The school had to not only remove a statue of Paterno from the football stadium--because it became a rallying point for students and alumni supporting him, but has had to literally hide the statue from fans obsessed with putting it back in front of the stadium.

And you think the board deserves credit for having hired Freeh to investigate the crimes at Penn State? The investigation came only after the arrest of Sandusky and the revelation of a university-wide campaign over more than a decade to protect Sandusky from prosecution and to allow him continued access to children.

The continued hero-worship by so much of the Penn State community of Sandusky's chief enabler and protector, even a decade after the disclosures, is so wrong.  [/quote]I have no connection with Penn State, but I do have a pretty good understanding of the matter, and you're just gaslighting ("reverse-gaslighting"?) at every turn.[/quote]

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