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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here, the PP is absolutely right, I’m not equipped to deal with guns in schools. That’s why I asked about policies that are in effect now. I know about some of them, based on the two expire we’ve had so far, I just don’t know if this is usual or if my kid is an outlier.

And no, I don’t know what policies would work, I’m not an expert, hence my question. Just trying to do the best I can. Thanks for the constructive responses.[/quote]

I would say for WOTP your kid is an outlier to have experienced gun violence trauma. EOTP they would be an outlier for not experiencing gun violence trauma until fifth grade.

The policy answer is that there is no effective policy. [/quote]

Most elementary kids EOTP have not experienced gun violence. So much misinformation on this thread.  [/quote]

Do you consider lock downs (not drills) traumatic? [/quote]

No, I don”r.  I think you minimize the real trauma of impacted kids by saying almost all kids EOTP have experienced trauma. [/quote]

Sounds like you’re minimizing the real trauma of kids who have experienced trauma from thinking there’s a shooter in their school? Are you also minimizing OP’s child’s trauma of having witnessed a shooting? Is that also not real trauma?[/quote]

And you think most kids EOTP have witnessed a shooting?  And those that have not are the exception?

Witnessing a shooting would be traumatic.  I don’t think going on lockdown when someone sets off a firework blocks from school is very traumatic, comparatively speaking.  My kids have been locked down several times, including this year.  No impact on them.  They went to preschool in the middle of Columbia Heights after all.  That doesn’t make them traumatized.  However, they still occasionally talk about the time the firemen came to the school.  I can’t understand trying to equate going on lockdown when kids don’t even know why it is happening to a kid witnessing a shooting.

To your point, I do think schools should end the school shooter drills with kids - with teachers only, sure have at it.  I just think it normalizes these incidents and is more harmful than productive long term.  If you want to call that mild trauma, I won’t disagree.  But it is a huge leap to compare it to witnessing a shooting.
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You continue to not read what I wrote. A school, ironically in Columbia Heights, in lockdown for over an hour, believing a shooter could be in the school. You don’t think that could be traumatic for every child in that school? Bless your heart.

I’m surprised your child hasn’t experienced gun violence while in Columbia Heights. I did multiple times during the course of 9 years there. I’m glad you believe only seeing or feeling bullets is traumatic, hopefully your child feels the same.

Ironically, I just read a WaPo piece about the Annapolis newsroom shootings where  the writer says the entire town was traumatized by it. And about Digital Pioneers and the four kids killed that year. But of course their classmates are just thinking about the fire department visit!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/30/mass-shooting-annapolis-capital-gazette/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025/06/30/digital-pioneers-dc-student-football-killed/[/quote]

NP:  Of course seeing someone shot dead is worse than being safe in a big building while someone outside has a gun!  Both situations ate stressful; one is worse than the other.

Your ridiculous "my trauma is bigger than your trauma" pissing contest is helpful to no one, and certainly not OP, who is wrestling with parenting decisions.[/quote]

I’m not arguing for ranking of trauma, I’m arguing precisely the opposite. Trauma is trauma, it doesn’t have to be better or worse trauma. The original point was the EOTP far more kids are exposed to trauma at an earlier age than WOTP. OP asked if their child was an outlier. I said yes and no, depending on where they are. Then someone else started arguing that some trauma apparently doesn’t matter because it’s not as bad. I think we can all agree children are statistically more likely to be exposed to gun violence EOTP than WOTP. This is also helpful info for OP because depending on where they are, their child is statistically more or less likely to continue to experience gun violence and her child is statistically more or less likely to encounter a gun in school. [/quote]

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