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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It may be with the lowering of standards for AP courses and exams. It’s one way to demonstrate rigor, but not the only one. There’s more variability in the rigor of DE classes, but AP classes also fall short of a rigorous college class.[/quote] Standards for courses are all over the place. Some AP courses are a joke (the kids won’t even sit for the exam because they are unprepared even though they got A’s), and some DE courses are a joke. Other AP courses or DE courses can be quite rigorous. This is why I suspect that AP scores will become more important for quality control.[/quote] I’ve read AP exams before as a gig job because I have taught an AP class. College Board is super concerned about competition from DE programs, so exam scores are being watered down. It’s a lot easier to pass the exam than it was before 2020. [/quote] One can always take DE and sit on the AP exam to have both options for credit transfer and AP score. [/quote] ALmost all top ranked schools accept very few credits from rising freshman so actually taking the exams at a certain point could be considered not worth it. Esp during senior year.[/quote] There is zero downside of taking the AP exam. Even if you don’t get credit you might be able to clear prerequisites. I could see it in senior year, but you’d know for sure around April or May, and by that time you have already prepared all year for the class, so it’s only a few extra weeks for effort.[/quote] For most kids, testing out of lower level courses is UNhelpful when the lower level ones will provide a safety net with some familiar material for high academic schools for rising freshman of schools that grade deflate. So yes, the downside is if you already know some of the courses you are taking won't change anything whether you do well on a few AP exams your senior year. Example: your kid can take the AP x-language exam and test out of lower level foreign language courses OR can decide early on in senior HS year that it probably makes the most sense to take the lower level foreign foreign language requirements while adjusting to college. So in this case, there is a downside to taking yet another exam (stress, wasted time, etc.), esp if you're over a limit of AP exams where your family pays for them over a certain amount. [/quote] Most of the cases I know are students that were not well prepared and chickened out of taking the exam. They still had a hard time in the college class. You can take the AP exam AND choose to not use the AP as prerequisite and repeat the course. Very few students that know the material do that, but of course if you’re on shaky ground it’s better to repeat. There are plenty of easy classes at a university if you’re worried about grade deflation, and most of them are more fun, interesting and helpful for a future career than repeating Calculus AB.[/quote]
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