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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our league is in a trial period for joining little league for softball and I really hope they ditch it after this year.  It is a headache for everyone.  Seems wonderful and organized for baseball but not worth it for softball.  [/quote]

100%!  Little League is a horrible option for girls and if any other rec programs exist, should not be considered. [b]The boys outnumber the girls by such a large amount, there's no way to keep resources equal and girls will always take a backseat. Girls will always receive less attention and they're given the leftover equipment The uniforms (for older groups) are rarely female fit, but instead unisex. The age groups are too broad, it hinders development. In the youngest ages, girls always are merged with boys and it's such a disservice![/b] Our 6U teams bat from a tee the first couple of weeks, and quickly move to coach pitch.  Girls are so much more attentive than boys, they learn more and have much more fun without the distraction and should not be held back because "we need to form a complete team and don't have enough girls".

I've been in the fastpitch world for over 30 years, having daughters play LL, fastpitch only rec leagues, travel ball and college. We now run our own rec program and the difference between our faspitch only league and LL is night and day.  I understand the convenience of LL if DD is practicing or playing at the same time/park as DS, but that's the only plus and rarely is the case.

Sorry for the rant, I know I didn't answer OPs question. [/quote]

There's boys or co-ed rec softball? Where?
OP, how many years did your daughters play baseball?[/quote]

I think he means that the Little League organization they were in had baseball and tried adding softball but the softball teams were treated like second class citizens.  Not surprising at all.[/quote]

I was following that from the resources perspective but then he said "In the youngest ages, girls always are merged with boys".  That insinuates his LL was doing co-ed softball.[/quote]

Sorry, to clarify,  I meant in the youngest ages of LL, there isn't usually a real softball program.  Instead, the league will merge girls onto boys' baseball teams. My oldest only played softball, because she was about 10 when she started and at that point LL offered softball. But our youngest played 2 years of LL baseball before we made the move to a girls softball only rec league. Had we stayed with LL, she likely would have played another years of baseball. Our girls played youth softball in 3 different states (military family), with rec ball in 2.  When we retired, we moved back to one of those states to continue growing the rec league in another part of town.  We have so many girls come to our league letting us know LL is still placing the boys and girls together in minor baseball or that they never got a chance to play as many games as the boys did. Also, LL, with their wide age range teams aren't keeping girls playing. We involve them in umpiring and give them more attention to keep them active in sports past 11 - the age when girls, unless competitive, stop playing sports. LL cannot retain them because the serious girls move on to travel, and the others, being treated as an afterthought, become disinterested.[/quote]

This is a helpful perspective.  I hope Arlington Girls Softball Association leaders are reading some of this. [/quote]

That post has nothing to do with AGSA, which is softball only and has multiple girls teams at all ages. Did you quote the wrong post?[/quote]

Little League is making a push for AGSA to merge with them.  [/quote]

That would be a big shift.

Our friends on an independent league that became an LL are not a fan, for all the reasons PP mentioned. They talk regularly about how softball gets no love in their league.[/quote]

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