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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How could ECNL stop "allowing" it?   Are you saying ECNL refs aren't calling fouls the same way that GA refs do?

I don't think ECNL, as a league, is doing anything to encourage rough play.  In my observation, the clubs in ECNL just play more physical, and so others respond, and it's a natural cycle toward aggressive play.  Fouls are called normally, cards are given, but they continue if it's their best chance to win.  The root cause is just that these players are hyper-competitive, willing to risk their bodies to win.  When these teams play outside ECNL, teams from other leagues are shocked.  But honestly, it works.

Watching pro soccer, I think you're wrong that the play isn't this physical.  It's just that you usually only see the very physical play when stakes are high.  A lot of ECNL girls are playing every game like it's the World Cup.  That does seem silly for a pro, thinking of injuries, but I think a lot of coaches are riding the players to play that hard all the time.  You'd have to convince the players that their spot in the lineup isn't at risk, and their chance at playing in college isn't at risk with every game.

Given similar incentives in GA, how do you think they are preventing teams getting into a feedback loop of rough play?  [/quote]
In this situation everyone expected the "hard play" so it wasn't anything our team wasn't ready for. Being aggressive and playing the body instead of the ball is what caused the top team to lose. The problem with this is theres more goons than there is talented players. So while a more talented team can beat a bunch of goons in a one off game. If the entire league is goons teams that try to play with skill wont be successful long term because skill takes longer to develop and everyone will get hurt.[/quote]

It’s also a lot harder to develop skill when the refs let the rough stuff go. If the leagues pushed the refs to call tighter games, coaches would coach differently and select different players.[/quote]

This. It’s not the league, it is the refs. I’m absolutely shocked at what refs around here allow. I grew up in Germany, and 90% of the plays that draw a yellow here would draw a straight red there. Same thing for regular fouls here, would be yellow cards there.

It’s like watching SEC vs ACC basketball. [/quote]

This is true.  If the referee called the game properly,  some teams would have multiple players booked every game, with some receiving straight reds for violent conduct. [/quote]
If this is the case why allow your kid to get beat up playing this way?

They're not going to get more skilled. If anything they'll just learn how to "fight" better.

Pro teams dont need goons. They need skill because the camera is watching every move.[/quote]

I read this three times.  It makes almost no sense. [/quote]
What part doesn't make sense?

That learning how to "fight" isn't a desirable (or shouldn't be a desirable) "skill" in youth soccer?

Or, that pro teams aren't on the lookout for goons?[/quote]

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