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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Student behaviors and student respect for any adults in buildings are both horrific. The kids are out of control, do not care, and make it known. I’m surprised more teachers aren’t yelling. Raise better children, teach them respect, teach them to follow directions, follow rules… etc. [/quote]

Translation: it’s ok to yell at poor kids, because some poor kids have bad behavior. [/quote]

DP but I don't think that's what the PP is saying. I have a kid in a Title 1, high at risk school. The teachers really go out of their way to be kind to the kids. There are many incredibly nurturing, skilled educators there who work especially hard to give the at risk kids a structured, warm, safe environment.

But at a certain age (2nd/3rd seems to be where it crosses over) if you have a critical mass of kids with serious home issues in a classroom, you have very limited choices as a teacher. When the disruptive kids are making it impossible for you to spend any time at all teaching the kids who are actually there to learn, what do you do? Teachers cannot remove these kids from their classrooms for more than short periods of time. They have to deal with them.

Not excusing yelling, but in some cases it's an act of desperation. If a teacher is yelling regularly, they are probably contemplating quitting or moving to another school. Often teachers who are yelling are either young and don't have the self control to avoid it, or they are feeling so unsupported by administration and so burdened that they are running out of options even if they are experienced teachers with good training in classroom management.

A good teacher can handle 2, 3, 4, even 5 kids like this in a classroom. Some teachers are expected to handle 12-15. A dozen kids who won't sit in their seats, who won't work, who get violent if provoked. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if that was your work environment?

We need to get realistic about what it means to mainstream kids with serious issues in today's classrooms. This is one of the top reasons teachers leave the profession. Everyone gets mad when you suggest different environments for these kids but what is the other solution? And in a district like DC where there are many schools where fully half or more of the kids may be disruptive due to IEPs or other at risk factors, what do you think those mainstreamed classrooms are like?[/quote]

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