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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I live in NYC and popular advisors here cost about 6k. Can be a lot more, but people are happy with the services they get at this price point.

As someone pointed out before, people like this guy will really push your unconnected kid to apply ED to Vandy or UChicago etc. They want to be able to list a lot of "top 20" admits (and they include about 40 schools in their top 20.. I guess they're top 20s on some list!). They want to be able to say, 90% of our clients are admitted to one of their top 3 choice schools, but they'll omit the fact that they wouldn't let the client put a top 5 school on that list of dream schools.

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Yup. I will say almost all college counselors push for ED. They want to be able to claim the same things.  It’s an icky business. There are some gems, and if you found one consider yourself lucky. [/quote]

Bc it rarely works out for unhooked T20 in RD…
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it's for sure easier to get into some t20s during ED than RD, by a lot.

but SCEA is no help at HYP etc. MIT, Stanford, Wharton .. RD gives you the same odds.

odds of getting into these schools are long, of course. but they are dream schools for some. and to have a counselor tell you to ED to Vandy instead is doing themselves a service.  kids need to realize, you throw your hat into the ring, it's long odds. and you may be taking a few schools off the table like Vandy or JHU or Chicago. But if you're a strong applicant and you'd be just as happy at GU or ND or Midd or even GWU and those look pretty solid, then who is this guy to tell you no, dont try. He might not want that GWU name on his list, but that's not your problem [/quote]

I don’t know any kid who would REA to HYPSM who would be “just as happy at GW”.

I mean, no.[/quote]

The question isn’t whether you’d be as happy at GW as HYPSM. The question is whether you’d be as happy at GW (or Maryland, or Rutgers) knowing that you shot your shot as you would be playing it safe and going ED to Wash U. [/quote]

Sometimes unhooked P has a shot in REA. 
Generally, though, If you are truly and objectively competitive for HYPSM:

your ED1 would be: Northwestern; Duke; Penn (not W); Brown; Dartmouth; Rice. Maybe Cornell for STEM. If rejected, then go for ED2. If deferred, shoot your shot with HYPSM.

Your ED2, after HYPSM rejection would be: UChicago; WashU; Emory; CMU; Rice; Vandy.
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Very few DC's classmates who would be competitive at HYPSM did ED1 or ED2. Almost everyone did end up at T20. This is a sample size of about 20 kids. 9 ended up at HYPSM. Most have U Mich or UCLA as almost but not quite "safety" in addition to UVA.
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Public or private?[/quote]

I bet it’s private[/quote]

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