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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why is everyone assuming mental problems where there is no evidence of one.

The more likely explanation is your neighbor has no experience taking care of a "grand dame" of a house, whether he's spent his whole life having things handed to him or he's just never been responsible for property upkeep, and probably doesn't care to live up to your neighborhood's expectations of the house.  Single men eat takeout.  It's not a symptom of disease.[/quote]

This. I have relatives that have decent to good jobs and children in private school, but aren’t clean, fastidious people. They have cleaners and yard clean up, and their houses and yards are somehow still a mess. Like bathrooms with empty tampon containers on the floor and full tampon containers on the sink and clutter and papers in the kitchen. Not hoarding level, but just really messy. 
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They are very busy and don’t have ability to be picking up every mess.  Usually this work falls on the woman of the house.   If she is working full time she is too tired to have to constantly tidy up after everyone and just gives up.  It’s very time consuming to maintain perfect home even for a SAHM with school aged kids.  When you get invited to a neat home it’s because it’s been cleaned up before you arrived.  Your family or close friends may not care to try to impress you with appearances, so you see their home in its natural state.  Even if you have a weekly cleaner your house can get messy every day with people not taking care putting things away, taking trash out or disposing of it properly.  I calculated how long it takes to keep a neat kitchen, and it’s at least 1 hour each day..   To clean a messier kitchen after cooking dinner and kids serving themselves and putting all things away, etc. it’s easily 2 hours.

You need FT housekeeper or a live in whose job is to keep things neat daily, that’s what rich people do who live in immaculate homes.

Outdoors is even easier to look messy because of fallout from the trees, rain, debris, dirt.  If you don’t have an outdoor cleaner on regular basis it will get messy and unkempt even with monthly lawn care. [/quote]

This is all just one long rationalization for having a messy house. It is not true that no one has a neat house. We have a cleaner come every two weeks and our house has always been tidy, even when we were both working demanding careers and had small children. There may be other reasons people have messy houses — [b]depression, ADHD, etc— but it is not normal[/b], and stop telling yourself it is. [/quote]

Actually, depression, ADHD, etc, are quite common, and dare I say “normal?”  [/quote]

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