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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Look, this is easy. You can tell that some people really live their faiths. Pence, Romney, Biden, Pelosi, etc. Politics doesn't come into it.

Vance? It's clear as day that he's been a vine looking for support all his life. He needs to feel part of something bigger than himself, and the Catholic Church is indeed a very powerful, long-lived, storied, somewhat mysterious, secretive and glitzy organization. He even had to build up to it. But I don't think he has a principled or God-fearing bone in his body, that man. I'd put Lindsay Graham in that category as well. Those two are deeply insecure people who due to their childhood upbringings, were born to be attracted to the schoolyard bullies. Their jobs in life are Attack Dog and Greek Chorus. They're not leaders.[/quote]

Vance enlisted in the USMC straight out of  high school in the middle of the GWOT and at the beginning of OIF. That singular act alone exceeds anything Biden, Pelosi, Romney or Pence have done.  That’s before we even get into the actual character of the four role models you reference. [/quote]

Really? Working in public affairs / media relations and getting educational benefits that changed the trajectory of his life is a “singular act” that exceeds “anything” that several lifelong public servants have done?  Lol Interesting values here.  It’s probably wise not to bring up “actual character”.  When I watched Vance attack Zelenskyy for the benefit of TASS and other media, I saw everything I needed to know.  [/quote]

This exactly! He enlisted to pay for school, luckily got a media affairs role, and kept his head down. He had ability of sorts so got that role but just like so many of his hillbilly elegy people they enlist because that is their only option to get out of that life. I’ve seen it many, many times from my hometown. He has no honorable attributes.

And now anti ivy. I bet every one of these “ attack Harvard, yale, elitist/ liberal horrible cultures” would do anything to get their kids in to one of them. So hypocritical.

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