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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is too late for car manufacturing in the US. Without government subsidies and tariffs the industry is dead. It can not stand up to the competition specially the Chinese- EV and ICE. Chinese car manufacturing is taking over the world. The only way to improve ICE is to have the ICE generate electrical power for wheel motors. The size and weight of electric car motors are shrink really fast. The Chinese are dominating both EV motors and battery innovation and production.

Interesting articles

[quote] I Drove China's Advanced EVs. Now My Brain Is Broken
On this week's Plugged-In Podcast: Part 1 of our Shanghai Auto Show recap
There's kind of a running joke at the InsideEVs office about Staff Writer Kevin Williams: he's been to China so many times, and driven so many of China's hyper-advanced electric vehicles, that he doesn't like anything we get offered stateside anymore
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Well, I've been to China now too. I joined Kevin in seeing and driving a bunch of those cars. And I came back to the U.S. with the adamant belief that this country—its auto industry, its policymakers and even its consumers—need to have a long, hard discussion about the technological leadership we have ceded to that country.
That's the big story on today's episode of the Plugged-In Podcast. My co-host Tim Levin (whom I have already drafted for the 2026 Beijing Auto Show, because he needs to see this stuff too) and I recap some of the most impressive things we covered at the Shanghai Auto Show this week and last. And I am hoping at least some of our coverage, which will continue on the site and our YouTube channel soon as well, will serve as some kind of wake-up call.

I joined the Geely Group, the parent company of Volvo, Polestar, Zeekr, Lynk & Co and others, for the show. Besides walking seven miles each day at the Shanghai Auto Show itself, I drove cars from those last two brands in Hangzhou; experienced battery-swapping Nios in Shanghai; and some of BYD's most cutting-edge new models in Beijing.

On today's episode, you can hear my takes on all of them. But believe me when I say that Western automakers need to be treating this as a five-alarm fire, and tariffs will not save them from what's coming[/quote]
https://insideevs.com/features/758402/shanghai-tesla-podcast-musk-byd/

Even Toyota!

[quote]Toyota is slowly shredding its reputation as the laggard in the global EV race. It plans to launch as many as 15 EVs by 2027 across the world and some of them—likely the crossovers, SUVs and trucks—will also end up on U.S. shores.

But this big shift isn’t happening in a vacuum. Behind the scenes, Toyota’s sprawling supplier ecosystem is going all in. The combined research and development spending from its closest affiliates—Denso, Aisin, Toyota Industries, Aichi Steel, Toyota Gosei, Toyota Boshoku and Jtekt—is on track to increase more than 7% to over $7 billion this year.

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Here’s more from Nikkei this morning:

"It's because this is a period of change that we want to increase investment in improving future added value," Denso CEO Shinnosuke Hayashi said in an earnings briefing, referring to the tariffs. 
Hayashi cited electrification and advanced driver assistance systems as growth areas, along with semiconductors and software to strengthen underlying technology. 
[b]"We will stop investment related to internal combustion engines," Executive Vice President Yasushi Matsui said.[/b]
That last bit could mark a turning point for Toyota. Denso has long been a stalwart of Toyota’s gas-powered empire. If it’s truly shifting to electrification, it signals not just a technological pivot, but a broader cultural one within Japan’s auto suppliers.

And Toyota needs it. The company has been sleepwalking through the EV era, with half-hearted efforts like the bZ4X. Full disclosure, I do have a soft spot for the bZ4x despite its shortcomings because it really suits specific use cases in cities like New York. But that’s beside the point. Chinese EV makers have raced ahead and threatened Toyota’s dominance, especially in China[/quote]
https://insideevs.com/news/758421/japan-is-finally-getting-serious-about-evs/

If US manufacturing of cars is important to you the US government is going to have to be very involved with subsidizing US manufacturers. Otherwise it is done. The US is 18% of the world car market and it is looking like the only market not making the conversion to EV.

All signs show the US is getting left in the rear view mirror.[/quote]

You cannot subsidize manufacturing.  You will pay penalties for that. [/quote]

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