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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The article said they questioned the agents. Questioning plain clothes officers is now a criminal offense?! [/quote]

Yes. In Trumps America, you must stand quietly while men in black with masks and no insignias, identification, or warrants, who do not identify themselves, grab women off the street.  And hope it’s “just” ICE acting outside the law and not human traffickers.

FFS— how hard is it to identify your agency, show a badge and provide a warrant? This is scary sh*t. [/quote]

Also I am not clear on how this squares with the mens rea requirement for criminal offenses [/quote]

I’m a lawyer, and that’s my point. It’s not there.  For the 95% of people who were forced to take criminal law: In order to obstruct an official proceeding, you must know that it’s an official proceeding you are stopping and not a woman being kidnapped. “Accidentally” criming isn’t a thing.  If you don’t know they are ICE and have probable cause for an arrest, there is no crime.   This is why LEO carry badges and show warrants. Maybe Trumps goons should try that?  It’s not hard. [/quote]

I'm somewhat confused. Is the DHS exempt from showing identification and warrants?[/quote]

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