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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We are at NCAP-Burke, and your child would have the same coaches the other “high achieving” coaches have until Gold I, which is the national team. All of the coaches are equally good and spread throughout the different practice groups. Also, NCAP-Burke is an automatic 1 year contract, which includes 4 days of long course during June-first week in August. Some kids don’t do LC, but the family pays regardless. Finally, our kids get a Burke Racquet and Swim Club membership with our dues. It’s not a super nice gym, but it does the trick for the older kids who want to work out. The 12Us can also go up and reserve a swim lane to practice turns, technique, etc. [/quote] NCAP-Burke may be an outlier because it is the only club that uses BRSC. For our swimmers, we were sold on NCAP-Burke because — the practice times were at a reasonable time in the evening and not early in the morning unless the family wanted early in the morning (also, kids can combine, eg, one morning and two evenings if needed to do other activities at night), — the coaches were the same regardless if the child is AAA or BB until Gold I (the practice groups are different depending on the level, but the coaches are spread out), — they have a full year program with the same coaches in summer, — they don’t push kids into swimming a lot of hours per week before age 11 (despite what others may think, [color=red]NCAP-Burke’s high performing 10Us practice only 3 total hours per week[/color], which is less than other clubs nearby, eg, Makos (over an hour per practice) and Machine (over an hour per practice and 4 days per week)) — It is 5 minutes from our house — my kids can go to the same place at a very similar time — my kids get to swim with other kids from school/neighborhood/summer league[/quote][/quote] [quote=Anonymous]That's hard to believe :) It’s true though. At NCAP-Burke, Bronze II (ages 9-12) practice M/W/F 5:30-6:30 pm or M/W/F 6:30-7:30 am. And only a very small handful (like 6-10 kids total) move to Bronze I (4-5 days/week, 1.25 hours each) at 11-12. The rest of the 9-12 year olds stay in M/W/F 3 hours/week until 13. And 8Us (Bronze III) are only allowed to swim T/Th 5:30-6:30 pm. No exceptions.[/quote] https://www.gomotionapp.com/team/pvncbf/page/training-groups[/quote] This is their 10U high performing group then, 15 h/week offered. Bronze I: Highest performing 11-12 + Select 10 year-olds who have competitive experience and are continuing to work on technique but are ready for more advanced competitive training 5 days a week. Practice times: AM - M-F 5:00 - 6:30 AM PM - 5:00 - 6:30 PM. Coaches: AM – Kim Spina PM - Jake Anderson[/quote] There isn’t in practice though. Even our AAA swimmers who were ready were not permitted to move up to Bronze I. It’s just not something Coach Kim does.[/quote] There are probably 48-54 age 9-12 swimmers at NCAP-Burke in Bronze II (we don’t have an updated roster) that only go 3 hours/week. MySwimIO doesn’t have one of the AAA NCAP-Burke swimmers properly listed on the NCAP-Burke Team, but if you look at the 9-10 A-AAA swimmers listed below, every one is in Bronze II (3 hours/week), one is in Bronze III (2 hours/week, 8Us), and many of these A-AAA swimmers will stay in Bronze II again next year because they are only going to be age 9 or 10. (The oldest of the 9-10 A-AAA swimmers below has a June or July birthday, so each of these 9-10 swimmers are fairly young.) We haven’t gotten our placements yet, but last year even age 10 A swimmers remained in 3 hours/week this year, notwithstanding being 11 and turning 12 this season. Indeed, one NCAP-B 11 year old AA swimmer still only practice 3 hours/week. https://www.myswimio.com/teams.php?teamid=20667 One of the top 10U NCAP males on this list is actually NCAP-B, and he also swims only 3 hours/week: https://www.myswimio.com/teams.php?teamid=10544&level=team [/quote]
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