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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Chemist here, yes orgo is hard, and for non chem majors it will probably be the hardest class they ever take.  For chemists, I actually thought quantum chem was a nightmare.

They call it a pre-med weed class, and my bro couldn't hack it and dropped his desire to be a doctor.  and I think this is why it's a weed class...

It teaches a level of logic you don't see in other STEM majors in that it involves both visual and order awareness, which I think is a necessary skill if your ever want to be a surgeon.  Orgo also requires more memorization then needed in maths or physics.  I honestly trust doctors who majored in chemistry better than other docs lol.

I had flash cards for orgo that I still have in my desk!  Each reaction had it's own flashcard and I memorized those cards until I could visualize each one in my head, so when I saw the rxn on a test I could draw it with no prob at all.[/quote]
So much if how you feel about these classes is really how your brain works.  I loves orgo and went on to get a PhD in it.  My second favorite classes was quantum chem and I added a physics minor so I could take more quantum mechanics.  So interesting and fun.

Biology majors and pre-meds seem to really struggle with these classes because they're so used to being able to just memorize for the test.  When I was teaching orgo, they'd even come to me and ask how to do a problem and I'd start to show them.  They'd stop me and say they just wanted the answer to memorize.  That's absolutely the wrong way to learn organic chemistry.  You have to treat it like math and solve the problems.  I know the reactions have names, but that's not the same as anatomy where you can just flashcard your way through the course.  You have to think and understand.  That's why med schools use it as a weed out class--you don't want doctors who can't think and solve problems.[/quote]

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