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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think what the deranged Tesla haters fail to understand is that some of us buy products on the merits of the product.  Teslas are incredibly fun to drive.  They never break.  They never need oil changes or maintenance.  Tesla is 100% American made and employs a lot of people.  The whole electric car industry is thanks to Tesla because of their charging network.  Whatever you think of Elon, there is much more to Tesla than Elon.  As someone who was bullied as a kid, I refuse to be bullied over my car as an adult ffs.[/quote]

Yet you don't have any problem with rich nazi lunatics terrorizing people for doing their work and voicing their opinions.  Well, that shows you why your values are.[/quote]

I’m not the poster you’re responding to but what a ridiculous straw man argument. Give it a rest. Every single CeO, founder , etc of incredibly successful companies is batsh*t crazy. Steve Jobs??? Totally batsh*t crazy. The founder of Dell computers - same. To reach that level of success, and take that level of risk to get there, you need to be a certain type of person, and it’s not a normal one. Unless you don’t own a smart phone, don’t use computers, and ride around on a horse and buggy, you’re buying a product made by a batsh*t crazy individual. [/quote]

I entirely agree with you, but that gives more weight to the argument that we need to bar billionaires from governmental power. Elon has blown past every guardrail that other billionaires respected before him, in a dozen ways, notably by actually BUYING votes in certain states. I still don't understand how that's not illegal! He shouldn't even attempt this. He has a long history of doxxing private individuals he doesn't like and ignoring how his followers then harass and threaten them, as well as subsequent lawsuits that no doxxing victim can ever win since he has a large amount of money to keep throwing at his lawyers to escape legal retribution.

To return to Teslas: in my little corner of Bethesda, it feels like a quarter of the cars are Teslas. There's no way rational owners are going to unload them in this economic context with looming tariffs on cars. I give the side eye to Cybertrucks because they're killer cars, so dangerous they've been banned in Europe. But Teslas? Eh. It's just your run of the mill crap car that people thought was the environmentally cool choice.

Keep your old Teslas, don't buy new ones, unload the stock. At some point, we're all going to drive cheap electric cars from China.

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I don’t think that billionaires buying elections has anything to do with cars and transportation, which is what this forum is about. I don’t think that billionaire oligarchs should buy the government, no. To be fair, they ALWAYS HAVE. Just more carefully and more behind the scenes, and less like a weird used car salesman commercial like Trump did with the teslas on his front lawn. And the politicians themselves actually cared more about running the country and having reputations as good people than they do now  (or maybe that’s me being naive). Anyways, I’d much rather buy a Tesla made largely in America than a piece of junk electric car from china, so, if the people on the left (of which I am one!!) think the best thing for our country is to try to destroy an actually pretty awesome brand of car , to virtue signal, and instead buy a “cheap Chinese electric car”, then I think you’re missing the point. [/quote]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think Tesla is any better than other brands of cars, I don't think Chinese cars are worse than other brands of cars. I don't have an America-first ethos when I buy. I do feel very strongly that Elon Musk has been allowed to rampage at the highest government level, and directly influence government and elections, at a level that no one billionaire has ever had (regardless of political affiliation). So we disagree on multiple points.

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