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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Ds are about to step on the rake on another 80/20 issue. The vast majority of Americans are in favor of this. [/quote]

I’m not opposed to verifying citizenship, but I’m not sure I trust DOGE to do it. [/quote]

This. Also, if we're going to require proof of citizenship we need to make it easy for people to get the required documents. Like perhaps not gutting USPS, making it harder for people to get the proper documents. Not making them have to travel even further during even more limited hours. This is all by design, and the intent is not voter security, it's disenfranchisement.[/quote]

You had a good run. But nobody believes this anymore. [/quote]

The fact remains, there is no proof of widespread voter fraud. This is a solution without a problem. However, if we're going to require proof of citizenship, we have to make it easy for people to acquire that proof. Otherwise, the result is disenfranchisement, which of course is the actual goal. You're a useful idiot if you believe otherwise. [/quote]

I had to at one point shoe my vaccine record to eat out so this is a low bar. [b]It is not difficult to either get a license or state ID. [/b]This is a great thing to enact. I think we should have voting day off and if you are sick or out of town then absentee ballet. [/quote]

The folded is exactly why this works on morons like you. It is NOT in fact easy for everyone to get a license or state ID. Many people rely on public transportation. Many of those same people work hourly jobs. Many of those same people can't afford to miss work to sit at the MVA to get a state ID. Many people move a lot or have parents who weren't good at keeping records. They don't have access to the paperwork needed to get the state ID, nor do they have the money to order replacement documents, and again, there's the whole transportation and needing to work for a living thing. Many of those people are elderly and home bound. Many of those people are disable. Many of those people are single parents.

Creating barriers to voting for specific populations is an American tradition. But is also goes against our ideals and what this country is supposed to stand for. Anyone who is eligible to vote should be able to vote. Unless there are efforts made to ensure it is easy and free for people to get the require proof of citizenship and ID, this is nothing more than a thinky veiled effort to keep more young, elderly, poor, disabled, brown people from voting. And of course all of those populations are less likely to support the GOP. But that's just a coincidence, I'm sure. [/quote]

This is a losing argument. Most people are rational and agree you have to prove who you are. Saying you can’t get a ride to get an ID when many places are open later hours now and also weekends. You can even make ahead of time appointments. I remember old school when you had to grab a number and wait hours. Again most people of both parties want elections with ID.[/quote]

Does your license say you’re a US citizen? Mine doesn’t. And many non-citizens have licenses.

Other than a passport, what commonly available document shows citizenship? Birth certificate I suppose although one could be born in the US but not claim citizenship. So that’s not fool-proof. Social security number - but green card holders get SSNs. Also not fool-proof.

Just passport then? Lots of Americans don’t have one. [/quote]

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