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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just want to note that in addition to people rightly hating Elon Musk, the truth is that the Chinese auto makers are killing everyone right now in the EV market.

NYT "The Daily" podcast has a story about this today, it's worth a listen. China has overtaken South Korea, Japan, and Germany in auto exports and 25% of the vehicles they export are EVs.

Gretchen Whitmer has also been talking about this lately because she's worried about what the introduction of Chinese EVs to the US market will do to the US auto industry. She actively supports Trump's Chinese tariffs even as she disagrees with almost everything else Trump does because she has seen what has happened to the European market due to Chinese auto imports and is scared of what it means for Detroit.

Elon Musk sucks and personally I'll never buy a product he sells ever (thankfully I have never been wealthy enough to buy a Tesla, lol). But Tesla is struggling in Europe for the same reason that European automakers are struggling -- Chinese imports. And Tesla is struggling more because it's all in on the EV market and that's where China is competing most aggressively, with less expensive options. Turns out Germans can't afford Teslas either![/quote]

Yeah, no matter how nice Chinese EVs would be you still won't have access to Tesla charging network which is the reason Tesla is plausible as an all-around vehicle and not just a local use commuter vehicle.   With a tesla it's like filling up at a gas station, there are chargers at every rest stop. We tried other electric cars as rentals on moderate duration road trips and it was complete PITA.  Alternative charging stations network is anemic and even if you find one it's often off the road requiring you to waste time getting off the highway and then there may not be enough working chargers.  We had this problem in CA and along the 95 corridor, not somewhere in the cornfields or the mountains.  We were looking longingly at all the tesla chargers we passed by and it was a no-brainer that other EV manufacturers just don't stand a chance.  [/quote]

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