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But sometimes pushing is just pushing and not at all effective parenting.  Effective parenting is putting your kid in a lot of activities, following the kid's passions, helping the kid set their own goals, and then pushing the kid to take the steps necessary to achieve them.  Effective parenting might also include putting a kid in outside enrichment if the subject is important to you.

Signing a kid up for a competition in an area in which they show little passion and lack a reasonable foundation, having the kid do somewhat poorly, and then deciding that you need to make the kid practice more and try harder without addressing the kid's interest or foundational knowledge isn't effective parenting.  It's just pushing.

I hope OP takes all of this to heart.  OP's kid is unlikely do do well next year on AMC 8 if she isn't getting some sort of outside foundation, whether it's through RSM, AoPS, her school's math club, the local math circle, or whatever.  She's also unlikely to do well or practice effectively if she isn't especially interested in the math.  [/quote]

See my reply above. Maybe you have not met a student that shows no passion for anything. By the way, she doesn’t hate math at all. She just doesn’t know what she likes. She hasn’t been on any math clubs before 7th grade because her ES doesn’t offer any. She missed the deadline for tryout the mathcount team at her MS. So yes, the only thing we could do this year is to have her try amc 8. Well, if she should not try amc 8, according to the score distribution, you would conclude at least half of the kids should not try because they are not ready and they must be forced by their parents. [/quote]

[b]Honestly, I am surprised at the number of kids who take the AMCs because the low scores show that most are not prepared for them. 
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They are not a normal 8th graders did better math test. There is more to them, a lot more. There is a reason why math programs have classes for these exams.

I have a co-worker who graduated from MIT who told me you could easily tell the difference between this students who had been competition math strong and regular math strong, the thought process is different.[/quote]

Honestly, I wasn’t aware students must prepare to take it. DC is strong enough in math that he regularly scores higher than most of his enriched peers in school. He felt like trying AMC8 for a challenge. What is the downside of doing it unprepped? [/quote]

The only kids I know who take the AMC tests are the kids who are into math competitions. My kids school has not offered the AMC 8. He is at Carson and we had to find a different location for him because it wasn’t offered at the school. His ES did not offer the AMC 8 last year. I know some ES and MS offer the test.

I think it is great that your child wanted to try the AMC 8 for the challenge, that is why my kid does math competitions, he likes the more challenging problems. As in all things, you tend to do better when you prepare. Doing well in math in school is preparation and a solid math student in 8th grade should have the skills to do well on the exam. The problems are different and the timing is different but the fundamental concepts are, obviously, the same.

There is a difference in a kid who wants to try it because they are interested in seeing how they do and a kid who is taking it because their parent makes them take it. The kid who wants to try it is entering from a place curiosity and the kid who is being made to do it is not.

There are plenty of kids doing enrichment because the parents insist on it and some who are there because they want to be there. We know kids who were at RSM because their parents made them go. I suspect OPs kid is doing AoPS because OP thinks it is pushing her daughter to do well in or see her potential in math and less because the daughter wants to do AoPS. There are lots of kids in Algebra 1 in 7th grade who never did AoPS or RSM or mathnasium or Sylvan or any of that. And many of those kids do well in the class.

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