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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This a child and they are looking for a woman. They didn’t have to handcuff her and keep her standing on the sidewalk for everyone to see. She will be traumatized. [/quote]

This is a not uncommon experience for Black children unfortunately.

Experiments, including one by the APA, have shown that White people often think Black children are much older than they really are. Even if the child is small for their age and dressed in an age appropriate manner. Add in racial bias by cops and you have a situation like this. [/quote]

It’s not “racial bias by cops” if the description is a black female in a pink coat and they detain someone found nearby who is a black female in a pink coat for questioning. Not saying the cops (or anyone else) are perfect but in this case it’s hard to see what they did wrong. Unfortunately kids that age really are stealing cars. That’s what you should have a problem with, not the cops trying to stop it.[/quote]

How do you get an 11 year old confused with a grown woman? Having a pink jacket was the only thing the suspect and the girl had in common. Are you saying that any middle schooler who has a growth spurt should be automatically assumed to be a car thief because “kids that age really are stealing cars”? I’ve never heard of 11 year olds stealing cars in droves.

This isn’t policing, it’s harassment. This family will have a nice lawsuit from this. You don’t go around handcuffing kids because of lazy policing. [/quote]

I’m not here to defend anyone, but if the description was a black female in a pink jacket and this 11-year-old matched the description then I don’t fault the police for questioning her. I’m very sorry for this particular girl because she wasn’t the car thief.

But let’s not sit here behind our keyboards and pretend like 11, 12 and younger kids aren’t out there stealing cars, and yes in droves. A few years ago I wouldn’t believed it but here we are today. In Montgomery County we have a serial car thief that is only 12 years old, so age is not a determining factor for car thieves anymore.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/12-year-old-serial-car-theft-suspect-accused-in-10th-case/3714096/?amp=1

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/10-teens-accused-dc-carjacking-rings-claiming-grand/story?id=105561158

And there are many more stories you can Google for yourself. Black kids, white kids, Latino kids. It is an epidemic.
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There will be no settlement.

Also, it's not "adulting" to say that Black children mature more quick than white children.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6097246/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20findings%20from%20three,and%2012.1%20years%20for%20African[/quote]

That's a study about menarche.  The age at which a girl gets her first period has absolutely nothing to do with the age at which a child needs to be treated more carefully because of being a child.  Adulting is when people, including these police officers, assume that a child of color, and often it's a black girl, counts as a "teen" or "adult" and treat them as such, rather than providing the accommodations and protections that they would provide a white child the same age.  It's a significant problem.

I am quite confident that if the car had been stolen by white woman, the officers would have either immediately focused on the differences between the long haired woman in a puffy coat with lines on it, and the shorter haired child with a smooth coat in front of them and never stopped her at all, or if they had stopped her would have treated her gently and contacted her parents immediately.  Because they would have seen her as a young child, not a "juvenile" and felt protective.  That is adulting.

I'm also going to point out, that since people are saying that a certain demographic steals cars regularly, that that demographic is male.  If you're OK with a child being handcuffed because they meet one demographic criteria but not others of other people who steal cars, I'm assuming you'd be OK with your 11 year old white sons being detained in handcuffs, since they also meet one demographic criteria.  [b]On the other hand, if you'd be upset if your white child was detained with no contact to you before or after because someone who was also male but a different age, outfit, and physical appearance stole a car, then you should be upset here.[/b]  [/quote]

That’s the part that bothers me the most who think it’s okay to just go up to any kid and put them in cuffs. This can be your child, but we’re supposed to be okay with this situation because “lots of kids are stealing cars”.

I don’t think any parent here would say “this was acceptable” if it was their own. [/quote]

If you pay attention, the parents of child carjackers, who are both boys and girls, generally think it is unacceptable to arrest or detain their children.  [/quote]

Totally missed PP’s point.[/quote]

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