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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]test-in public school where probably 90% of kids in a given year would be considered "unhooked." excellent academic reputation high SAT more A's than B's basic ECs probably around the 50th percentile in the grade - eg not really Ivy material.[/quote] High SAT and mid-rank at at a test-in school with an excellent academic reputation, and you think he wouldn't be Ivy material (with exception for the z list angle) because of rank and basic ECs? That's not how it works. Maybe his hook is ultimately gets him in, but don't pretend he isn't academically qualified, because he is.[/quote] "Qualified" meaning can do the work - sure. In the sense of merit - no. There is no way this kid would get into Ivy without the Z list. Zero chance. I don't have an issue with other hooks. First gen/low income - big hurdles. Athletes - the amount of work required to play a sport at that level is truly impressive. I Daddy made a phone call and wrote a check - ick.[/quote] I’m broke, too. But if a billionaire’s nice kid gets into Harvard, the billionaire buys Harvard a building, and the billionaire pays for the financial aid for five students, what’s so icky about that? It’s a lot of easier if Harvard admits a few billionaires than if it hits me up for money I don’t have. [/quote] The thing is that Harvard has plenty of money already. I am fine with them attracting a few more billionaires kids I guess but their endowment is huge as it is and they benefit from massive taxpayer subsidies and all they do is make inequality in this country worse by favoring kids whose parents can afford sports like lax and sailing (I say this as a parent of a kid doing one of those sports). Google all the stuff Malcom Gladwell has written about the Ivy League, it is gross.[/quote] It's more than just about donations. They want influential and noteworthy families in the Harvard community. Extreme money (because it brings influence) puts you in this category of family. But it's also why they preferentially admit the kids of famous authors or politicians or artists, etc. They want these names under the Harvard brand. [/quote]
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