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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, only listen to people who actually have kids at college overseas. My kid didn't find admissions at Oxbridge or a place like U Toronto all that straightforward. Not the same as in the US, but certainly not just a test score and GPA. Both had essays, asked about ECs, etc. Yes, if for example at U Toronto, you had not already taken AP Calc BC by junior year and had not scored a 5, you basically couldn't apply for various STEM majors...however, there were still essays and LORs and all the other stuff required of the application. Motivation for us was that some of these universities are tops in different fields, and you would save compared to OOS schools. I don't know how tuition works if you say move to Ontario but aren't a Canadian citizen or move to the UK, but aren't a UK citizen.[/quote] I disagree about Oxbridge admission -- it is very straightforward, but not easy. They have clear standards, require standardized testing, and care only about aptitude for the particular field of study. "Hooks" are not considered at all. While a few subjects accept a relatively higher percentage of applicants, the more popular subjects accept only about 5% of US-based applicants. Tuition is based on residency for UK schools, like US state universities. Oxbridge is less expensive than US equivalents this year, but the exchange rate does vary.[/quote] The UK apps are very straightforward. They are transparent about the minimum SATs and APs are for certain courses of study. There are only 5 schools one can apply to because the chances of admission are so obvious. The American holistic BS is social engineering that continues to fail everyone.[/quote]
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