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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s all body fat percentage.

Genetics only impacts where your abdominal muscles are and their shape.  So some people (for women) may drop below 18% body fat and not see them.  You may have to go lower on body fat and work them out more to actually see them.

Your size of 2 or 4 or whatever has nothing to do with body fat percentages.

There are plenty of women who are not a size 2 or even 4 with visible abs/toned stomach.

[b]Having a flat stomach is not that hard - 20% body fat should do it.  [/b]Visible abs is way harder.  Like 1 in 25,000 people have visible abs (man ore woman) by most estimates.[/quote]

And what percentage of grown women (with kids) have 20% body fat or less?  It must be pretty high for you to declare it’s “not that hard”…  :roll: [/quote]

To have a flat stomach is not that hard compared to having visible abs.

It becomes exponentially harder to go from 20% body fat to 19% to  18% at each interval.

When a female drops below 20% or a male below 15% it is a near full time job and counting every single calorie and training time.

Very, very few people have the discipline and drive to do it.[/quote]

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