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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've just noticed all the "new" (to me) signs for No Turn On Red.  Why?  It seems more dangerous for pedestrians crossing the street as cars that have been obeying the law (sitting there with no traffic coming, now try to turn while pedestrians/bikes are crossing.  When are the cars supposed to go, especially on pedestrian heavy crosswalks?  Sigh...I need to start going to the council meetings.[/quote]

Because Right Turn On Red is dangerous for pedestrians, and we have known that since at least the mid 1980s.

[b]The drivers are supposed to turn on green, when there's nobody in the crosswalk[/b]. If there's somebody in the crosswalk when you have a green light, then you should wait. [/quote]

At a busy intersection, this will never happen if they don't delay the Walk signal for pedestrians!!  I've been nearly hit multiple times while in the crosswalk, with the walk signal, as cars turn in front of me or behind me trying to make the light!  Let them turn on red!  Put red light cameras to catch those people that don't come to a complete stop.
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To be fair, I have noticed an increase in the delayed light changes for pedestrians in concert with the no turn on red signs in DC along my commute.[/quote]

It's not delayed light changes for pedestrians, it's delayed light changes for drivers. Pedestrians get a walk sign, then a few seconds later drivers get a green light. So pedestrians get a head start on crossing, before the drivers start turning. That's only effective if there's also no turn on red for drivers. [/quote]

Yes, the leading pedestrian interval combined with turn on red is super dangerous.  I almost got hit when crossing with my child at an intersection like this- the light turned to walk and we started to cross when someone turning on red cuts right in front of us.  If we hadn't waited a beat before crossing she would have hit us.  I pulled my kid back and gave the car a "WTF" shrug and she stopped her car and GOT OUT OF HER CAR to yell at me that she was allowed to turn right on red, etc.  Clearly she was in SUCH a hurry to turn right since she had time to top and yell at a mom with a two year old.  [/quote]

YIKES! I'm glad she didn't hit you.[/quote]

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