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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't help but see these 160 NNAT scores and think that these are kids that definitely did NNAT prep to "test into AAP". It would make since that other data is weighted higher if its suspected that this isn't a true picture of the child's ability since they've been training to take the assessment. The NNAT and CogAT aren't designed to be studied for.  I'm a teacher in another district who has never seen a kid with a 160 in over 10-12 years of the district giving this assessment. [/quote]

My kid scored 160 without prepping. He is a bright kid and does well at school, but I was surprised. How do you even prep for a test like that? It's not math. Plus, it's a scaled score, so someone has to get 160. It doesn't mean they got every question right. Now I'm worried the high score is going to work against him.[/quote]

High scores on the tests seem to be questioned when they don't match iReady scores or a child's performance in the classroom. I suspect that iReady's are taking on more importance, they were not included when my child was in 2nd grade, because they are something that are harder to prep for and are adaptable. So a high scoring CoGAT or NNAT kid who is scoring in the 70th percentile or 80th percentile on the iReady is likely to see the NNAT and CoGAT scores disregarded. [b]That is what I suspect, no one has any hard information on this. [/b]

And I have known kids who score high on the CoGAT/NNAT and did not show similar performance in the classroom. The kid is smart but is not curious and not motivated in school. They tested into Algebra 1 H in 7th grade and choose Math 7H instead. They are in honors classes but don't care if they get a C or a B. The parents encourage retaking test but the kid says no and won't do the work. There are smart kids who are not motivated and whose parents are trying to motivate them but they just don't care. The kid was the same way in ES. Nice kid, not a trouble maker, just would prefer to be outside playing and goofing off with friends and has no interest in school.

There are above average intelligence kids who are super curious and motivated. They don't score in-pool but their classroom behavior, iReadys (based on what they are learning), SOLs (in third grade and beyond) who are great fits for AAP because they are curious and motivated.

There is more to fit then test scores.[/quote]

The bolded was my point above. Posters on DCUM only have guesses, though there are people who show up occasionally who make pretty convincing cases that they sit on the decision committee and understand how it works.

Everyone likes to make the bold claims (NNAT 160 looks prepped! Committee won't accept!) but no one knows this. In fact the committee report in 2020 showed pretty solid acceptance numbers for high scores, but also that some very low scores (CogAT of 99 stood out to me when I first read it) get in.

And the part about classroom behavior goes with the idea that the teacher recommendation carries a lot of weight. All other things being equal a 120 CogAT will get in with a good HOPE but not get in with a bad one.[/quote]

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