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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm surprised the anti-AAP/anti-Center poster hasn't shown up yet.

The Center model should stay for precisely this reason. There aren't enough kids at base schools to fill a class in each grade so they will either cluster and/or drop the academic threshold to include more kids in order to fill AAP seats. [/quote]

Centers are not needed anymore. AAP is a joke now with the new basal. EVERYONE is getting the same LA. Adv Math should be offered at all ES at this point. [/quote]

Science and Social Studies exist, too, my friend. Maybe there was no difference for your DC but mine received Level IV S/SS as well as LA and Advanced Math.  [/quote]

The SS/Science content is the same too. Some schools are teaching the Level 4 curriculum to everyone. The only difference between SS/Science and GenEd are some extensions and quicker pace. Adv Math is offered at base school too. Your child isn’t getting an advanced curriculum that isn’t offered at their base school too. [/quote]

What you don't know, you don't know.[/quote]

I am a different poster but the OP above is correct. SS/Science in AAP isn’t anything drastically different and many schools are using the LL4 pacing and resources with all. In fact, some of the AAP lessons the county creates in SS are also on the Gen Ed one.  The differences are AAP has a different PBL, and might go more in depth on a topic, but the content is the same. - AAP teacher[/quote]

Arts and crafts is a ridiculous way to teach history- parent who despises PBL [/quote]

Like anything, it's all in the planning and execution. Dioramas are not real PBLs, but a [b]3D timeline representation or making an ancient newspaper might be.
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However, the focus on math to the exclusion of all of other subjects is damaging. Kids who are weak in LA or science deserve to have their own class pacing, and kids who are advanced in those deserve appropriate material. [/quote]

The first is arts and crafts, the second is make believe unless you really think that 4th graders are accessing source material for their articles. Maybe instead of the diorama or the article, they could, and I know this is crazy talk, read a text book that discusses the history they're studying at a grade appropriate level. [/quote]

You can't make a timeline or a newspaper without reading the text book -- [i]and[/i] in order to make them, your understanding of the material has to be deeper than is required for mere class discussion. The point of it being a 3D timeline, for example, is that a key historical  event is often preceded not by a linear progression of dates but by a spiral of escalating events, or by a convergence of several seemingly unrelated timelines from different directions. Having to think about how to show that is the point of the exercise.

These are both projects you will find in, e.g., APUSH. Parents of advanced kids should appreciate how and why learning happens beyond textbooks and drills, instead of fixating on the outdated methods of the 70s. 
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By APUS, the kids have enough understanding of the background events to do the project. The projects now either have hilarious and obvious inaccuracies or a large degree of parental input because the kids simply have not been taught enough history [/quote]

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