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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's not enough information for anyone to be really helpful. A 3.85 and a 1550 is going to get read everywhere. But what else is there? And what do they want to study? Liberal arts or STEM? And what's their vibe? There's a big difference between someone who's going to thrive at Columbia vs someone who's happier at a small, more isolated school like Dartmouth. Or perhaps they want a big sports atmosphere like Notre Dame or Michigan.

Generally, for the top schools, pay careful attention to where students from your high school have been getting in over the past three years. What was true ten years ago is no longer true today. It's a very different landscape. You need to be strategic with where you apply ED. Forget about HYPSM if there is no strong hook. And for DMV applicants, Penn and Duke are also really tough. Vanderbilt and Northwestern are also crapshoots for everyone these days. But for an unhooked ED app from a Big 3, I suspect Cornell, Chicago, Rice, Brown, and Columbia will give it very serious consideration. Notre Dame is very particular in what they look for, but if they fit, it might be worth it. WashU, Emory, BC, and Tufts will be likely admits.

But be sure to visit before applying ED. Mine with similar stats knocked off several schools after visiting.        [/quote]

I think this is the best advice you have been given. It sounds like from a parent that has been through it before from a school like this. I have had close friends with kids go through it at these schools, I'd say the following:

Do you know any parents from the last year's class - bc they tend to know a lot more info if they had a kid in same general range?

Beyond that, I agree with above poster. At our big 3, HYPSM wouldn't likely work with just the stats unless there is something differentiated.

Agree that Penn and Duke are hard and that Vandy and Northwestern are super unpredictable. Columbia, Cornell and Dartmouth are easier. Wash U and Emory and Rice totally possible.  Also, it does seem like the SLAC ED kids do pretty well and more of those schools have ED2. Also, applying EA to some of the bigger state schools like MI seems to be a popular option and can be done at the same time. 
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