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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.
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All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet. [/quote]

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. [b]So what, humans are a different species. [/b]
2.  Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants. [b]The need for Vit C is reduced to almost nothing on a no-carb diet. Also you get plenty of vit C from meats, organ meats, eggs, etc. [/b]
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess. [b]Cholesterol is good and keeps you healthy and creates testosterone. LDL is bad, and caused by overconsumption of carbs. [/b]
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food. [b]And this is not relevant at all.[/b]
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier. [b]This is about science, not religious dogma. Try the religious section.[/b]
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier. [b]China is poor and has to feed 2+ billion people a rice based diet or they starve. They are not very healthy at all overall as a population.[/b]
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat. [b]Fiber is not necessary for proper bowel movements when eating enough fat. Hence why a high protein low fat diet is deadly. [/b]

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All of that has been debunked and fact checked in bold.[/quote]

You drank the Kool-Aid didn't you?

1.  Looks like you don't believe in evolution. You don't see families in a taxonomical chart differ so much in diet. [b]Humans evolved to eat mostly meat, due to larger brains that we evolved so we could learn to make weapons and hunt.[/b]
2. "Vit C is reduced to almost nothing ..."; have you heard of: scurvy? sailors on entirely meat diet got them.  This was known in the 1800s. [b]Sailors were fed hard tack which is mostly all carbs, along with potatos. Very little meat consumption in the Navy, so they didn't get enough Vit C from their diets and had to supplement with citrus, which was cheaper, easier to store, than fresh meat.[/b]
3. High Cholesterol - you need a little and a lot builds up. This has been proven. [b]Cholesterol builds up due to poor genetics or lack of activity leading to obesity, or overeating especially high carb diets. [/b]
4. Point is carnivores digest meat differently - the stomach acid is higher. Herbivores need to chew. [b]Irrelevant to the discussion again. [/b]
5. Adventist study - compares people living in the same area, similar genetics,  and different diets. Nothing to do with religion.  And its a large American study. [b]Adventist literally means religious based "science". [/b]
6. China Study - compares healthy and non-healthy. And China did not have 2+ Billion ever! Even a percentage of healthy from a billion is a large number. [b]China has disappeared untold tens of millions of dissidents in the last few years for sure. Again, humans evolved differently. Most Asians are lactose intolerant as an example. [/b]
7. Fiber has always been linked to bowel movements. Plus Fat gets absorbed before the gut bacteria eat them. [b]This one is just way too silly to respond to. Learn some basic human biology[/b]

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1. Meat leads to larger brains;  human-like traits could be explained by other theories, such as the use of fire to cook food, which increases nutrient availability. No one knows what people ate thousands of years ago its speculation.
2, https://health.mil/News/Articles/2022/01/10/The-British-Limeys-Were-Right-A-Short-History-of-Scurvy - its on health.mil
3. denial - this is a modern day problem. 
4. Is your stomach acid stronger to digest meat? Nope - you need to cook it. Fruit are easily digestible raw and tastes good. You need to garnish meat with plants to make it taste good.
5. Its the name of the study since the religious group promotes not eating meat but has a significant portion that do. Used for comparison. Not sure why you can't move past the name. Is Rhode Island an island to you?
6. I have no idea what your point is? I thought you didn't believe in evolutionary traits. China is not a good country? 
7. Literally on NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9787832/ and you will disagree with the whole paper because you are a science denier. [/quote]

Want to try to clarify your rants? You are making very little sense in that list. [/quote]

No Need. Just let me know where you are getting your info? like: people who eat only potatoes get scurvy? vitamin C is not necessary. and fat is better than fiber. I made my points and curious to see where you got your info?[/quote]

Being intentionally obtuse is against TOS. [/quote]

All I asked are for you sources? I provided 2 of my sources. Nothing obtuse.  without sources I can make up stuff like: eating worms at midnight has been scientifically proven to ...[/quote]

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