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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]votes on cloture often have nothing to do with filibusters anymore.  just a routine procedure.  & the whole recent filibuster shit started with Dems blocking Bush's judicial appointees.  Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?[/quote]

You are avoiding my point. I contend that the unprecedented use of the filibuster by Republicans prevented Obama from having "two years of unfettered discretion". I have provided facts to support that contention. It doesn't matter who started the "filibuster shit." That is a different discussion and one about which I am sure I would disagree with you.

So, yes, I have an idea about what I am talking. Do you want to join that discussion or simply make irrelevant and unrelated statements?
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no you don't have any idea.  there were more true threats of filibusters with a Dem congress.  you are mistakenly focusing on the cloture votes - hence you are an idiot.[/quote]

How do you define "true threats of filibusters"?

You called me an idiot. Yet you made this statement: "[T]here were more true threats of filibusters with a Dem congress." This provokes the following obvious questions:
 
1) Do you even know what a filibuster is? It is an action by a minority to prevent the majority from voting on legislation;
2) If the Democrats controlled the Congress, they would have a majority. Therefore, that majority would win votes. There would be no reason to engage in a filibuster to prevent the vote;
3) What do you believe the purpose of a cloture vote to be? What purpose does such a vote have outside the contest of a filibuster?

You and I agree. There were more true threats of filibusters with a Democratic Congress. That is exactly my point. Thank you for your agreement.
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