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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Metro doesn't go to Triple Crown bc it's the same weekend as Cap Classic- Metro's tournament. Which... They also cheat to be in the best pool play options, it's such a joke. [/quote]
So let me get this straight. Your hypothesis is that in the Open divisions with as many as 64 teams, that Metro (who doesn't actually run the tournament), seeds each of these divisions so their teams have an easy pool on day 1 of a 3 day tournament and predicts the results of each of the pools to set themselves up for the easiest pools/bracket on day 2 and day 3? Sounds really plausible. They're probably paying hundreds of refs a few extra bucks to make calls in favor of Metro?  Maybe they have special coins that allows Metro to win all the coin tosses?

While seeding can definitely be helpful for a team to win a tournament, in most 3-day tournaments barring some egregious mistake that puts some of the top teams in the same pool on day 1, most of the best teams will not see each other until the gold bracket on day 3. And if you look at the CHC results in the open division for the past few years that's how it has played out.  Of course there is an occasional upset or a team does better or worse than expected, but for the most part the best teams rise to the top, and that usually includes the Metro Travel teams.

The reality is that in the Open divisions, CHC is not a very strong tournament.  The best Open level teams in the country are almost all at Triple Crown meaning that the Metro Travel teams are generally among the strongest teams attending CHC.  It would probably for Metro to be attending Triple Crown to get ready for qualifiers in March.  [/quote]

Metro conspiracy theories aside, it is true that hosts sometimes seed tournaments in ways that help their club.  It’s not a Metro thing, it’s a general club issue that happens everywhere. Seeding is subjective, and everyone has biases-implicit or explicit. It’s easy to move a team up or down a couple of spots and still have it sound ok.

Setting up brackets so your teams don’t play each other is definitely done at Capitol Hill, and Metro does benefit from it because they send the most teams in every division.  When you set up tournaments so club teams don’t play each other, you have to move those teams above or below their standard seeding and this means pools will be unequal.

There are several other CHRVA clubs that do the same thing for tournaments they host, and it helps them as well.

If you really want to start wearing a tinfoil hat, check out the CHRVA regional tournament seedings.  There are times when a club has two teams—one that should be seeded first and another that should be seeded fourth or fifth, and play each other in the pool round.  Because they don’t want that (which is fine) they switch the lower seed team into the other pool and take the higher seed out of that pool.

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