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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's no point for C level kids to be on a travel team. It's just a money grab. C level kids should be playing rec. I personally would not waste money on private lessons for a C level 13 year old. [/quote]

Y'all need to stop denigrating C level teams.  Yes, some may be glorified rec teams.  Most are not.  There are unlikely to be new players on a travel team; most of the girls will have played for years.  They'll make most catches, they'll know how to bunt and where they're supposed to be on the field based on game play.  Some, like DDs team last year, are playing C because they lack any good pitchers and it's really hard to win at B without at least one good pitcher.  Some are outstanding teams ([b]I have no idea how some of the teams at the East Coast C Championships could be classified as C teams.[/b])  It is absolutely worth taking private lessons if you want to improve at that level.

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I think they all got bumped up to B by their local directors for 24-25.

I say that bc I'm a parent of one of the players on that team.  They were C bc they were essentially a brand new team; 10 of the 12 years had only played rec before the year.  But they wanted to improve.  They put in the work all fall & winter and it paid off with a great finish to the season, and then they were (rightly) bumped up to B for their second year of 12U.

[b]Which is 100% the point of C level softball.  The person denigrating C level is an idiot.  That story would have never happened if those girls had stayed in Rec or been forced to play B before they were ready.[/b]  [/quote]

I know a different C level team that is exactly what you described (or are you on the 13U Firebirds?). Great story, I agree. And the purpose of C.

But there are other C level teams that are not even or just barely rec all-star teams with coaches who may or may not actually be able to get them to that level. I know those teams too and I know that they typically end up just chasing girls out of the sport because it's not fun to be beat by teams like yours with solid players who were catching up to B level play over the course of a year when they aren't improving.

I'm not the poster ragging on C level play, but I get why they would be. It's not your success story and those like you. It's the other teams.[/quote]

No, no the Firebirds but I do know that team, and they are also a good example.

You're not wrong.  And FWIW, those games (where a glorified rec team faces a team catching up to B) suck for both team.  Sure, it stinks to be mercied.  And it stinks when run differential is a tie breaker so the score gets run up a bit.

But it also stinks that, at C level, you only get 2 pool play games and one of them is against a team that shouldn't be there.  You don't actually have to compete.  You don't improve.  When you get 2 ABs and its just 8 balls outside of the zone.  That stinks for the other girls too.

So I totally agree that there are teams that should go back to Rec.  But I do object to the PP that said something like "if you're playing C, just go back to rec".  By age 12, you're not going to catch up to the B teams by playing rec.  There's still a place for C level softball.  Even if its diluted by teams that shouldn't be there[/quote]

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