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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And there goes the low income students![/quote]

My guess is they will also be giving poor students a preference in admissions.
That is what MIT did and their pell grant students went from 20% to 24% of the entering class.[/quote]
I don't really see why this is any more a fair system. I get that poor people aren't a protected class, but it is ridiculous that we attempt to correct education at the finish line.[/quote]

This! All resources must be applied at the primary/secondary education levels. Admission to college should be on the same standard for everyone with minor exceptions for culturally ingrained BS like sports and legacy. Subsidize those that can't pay tuition but that shouldn't be a factor in admissions. [/quote]
I'm a big proponent of required AP/IB and SAT scores. Every time I bring this up, someone responds with "But not all underfunded schools provide AP coursework" 1) Okay and? How many poor students are going to elite colleges in the first place and 2) this is not a good defense as to why we should allow underprepared students into elite schools. They will be surrounded and trampled by students who all do well in standardized exams.[/quote]

LOL. Tell it to my spouse.

Grew up dirt poor, got good (but not elite) scores on standardized tests, accepted to HYPS.

First in family to attend college. While the spoiled rich kids (like me) were partying, they worked 3 jobs to pay for school and have $$$ to eat/live.

Def did NOT get "trampled by" students who did well on standardized exams.

In fact, they graduated at top of class, went on to top 5 grad school, became a nationally known expert in their field, and was eventually appointed to prominent national leadership position by BO.

I know multiple others from similar backgrounds with similar stories.

Bottom line: a lot of the poor kids are a whole lot smarter and hungrier than the wealthy kids who get it all handed to them on a silver platter.
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So he stole a spot from a student who could've gone further with their education. This doesn't impress me like you think it should. Getting into a top 5 grad school from an elite college is a given.[/quote]

DP.  No, he did not “steal” a spot.  The school recognized a brilliant mind behind disadvantaged circumstances.

All of you talking about how a poor kid getting 1450 is no big deal because Khan Academy exists are so full of sh*t.  Why would you assume a poor kid has regular access to a do,outer or for that matter electricity?

What if the kid is working a full-time job also supporting younger siblings because their parents are drug addicts or alcoholics?

Can’t believe how f#$&ng smug and clueless you entitled people are.

Disadvantaged kids being 4% of a class at MIT is a threat to you?  BTW, these kids often do much better than many middle class kids once at elite institutions.. [/quote]
Maybe because those poor kids at the elite institutions came from elite prep schools...
It really is that simple. These kids have advantages in life more than anything.[/quote]

That’s not all kids and you know it. Some come from inner city or rural high schools.

Even if they are coming from elite prep schools they are often facing significant disadvantages. I had several friends who went to elite prep schools like Dalton and Spence who were part of the Head Start and Prep for Prep programs. Believe me, they faced major challenges from extreme poverty at home, where they didn’t have enough to eat on a daily basis except for what they got at school to severe emotional dysfunction and drug addiction on the part of their parents.

I am in awe of what they achieved. They also dealt daily with the mindf*ck of living in two vast different universes and not belonging in either one.

I came from a UMC and attended an elite HYP university with them.  They did well academically, but had emotional scars that fortunately they were able to afford therapy for after graduation.

FWIW, they did not have lower test score or grades. The prep schools did their job well. [/quote]

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