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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At our competitive public school - the editor in chief of the school paper.

You really should visit if you can before applying. There are some schools - I'm thinking Northwestern, Stanford, Duke - that have this reputation as fun, smart schools.

Well, that was some time ago.

We visited. The lake is beautiful of course. But when Chicago seems like the more fun school, there might be an issue.  [/quote]

+100 Crazy that Chicago is getting more of the smart but really social kids from our private than Northwestern. Especially when you consider that fact that Northwestern is in the Big 10. We went and toured and were shocked by the feel of the place and the kids that attend. [/quote]

So what schools have taken the place of northwestern, Stanford and Duke as the fun, smart schools?

Vanderbilt?[/quote]

Vanderbilt is starting to trend down too (in vibe, not academics!). When schools place so much emphasis on absolute perfection of grades, scores and ECs that is what happens. The more laid back smart kids are weeded out. I suspect many are ending up at the big state flagships or privates that are the tier down from the top 25. [/quote]

Agree.  We toured Vanderbilt twice this year and it also feels very different than a few years ago when we toured with my older child.  It is getting to be a grinder place too. 
NU, Duke and to a slightly lesser extent Vanderbilt are now highly Asian with a few geeky white people and then some URM athletes.  That's really what they feel like.  We spent hours walking around each of them. The perspective students on tour groups feel even more this way so if anything they are trending ever increasingly in this direction.

I think the smart and social kids (white, Asian and any race) keep going down in prestige to try and find a more balanced college experience.  Wisconsin seems full of normal kids.  Smart but want a vibrant social life.  [/quote]

Lmfao! Just like the other threads, “there are no social kids at elites! They are all nerds!” Or worse the blatant anti asian racism. Well guess what dont apply! My white kids are at different ivy/+, are not athletic recruits, are intellectual and are very social and creative and are having a great time with all their new friends (several races and ethnicities represented), and definitely socialize. Just because they do not have huge football drinkfests every weekend and frat parties other nights does not mean they are not social. And newsflash, Duke was nerdy in the 90s. It has gotten more saturated with the super -bright kids, as they are a majority now: but it is as social as most ivies and stanford . None of them are the “laid back social “ vibe: these are intensely smart future leaders and researchers, if they were laid back they would not have gotten in to any T20! Don’t apply if it’s not a fit for yours, but don't trash kids for being nerds when you do not have first hand experience at multiple such schools. And don’t be racist. [/quote]

Your kids are exactly the ones that my very smart, high EQ super social kid (and those like him) want to avoid going to school with en masse.  You're proving my point.

This is actually not meant as a slight although I'm sure it reads as such.  It's great that your kids have found their niche but not all smart kids are like them. All "future leaders" are not like them.  Many future leaders are today's partiers.  I can think of countless people (young adults and mid career) who fit this description.  
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