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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]
1) That's why they're supposed to perform studies before instituting these types of social experiments on our children.
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That is exactly the first step that is required in Maryland. From the report to which you linked:

"A. The Department shall develop a method to analyze local school system discipline 
data to determine whether there is a disproportionate impact on minority students."

[quote=Anonymous]
2) How trite.  Re-read the Maryland policy; what's suggested here is not simply an "investigation" of alternatives to reduce disparity, it's an ACTUAL and complete leveling of any (statistical) disparity in less than 3 years.  Think about this for a moment, how do you modify the punishment statistics as a school administrator or teacher when you actually have control over only a very small, minute portion of that which is in a student's life that is actually causing misbehavior and have no control over many of the primary factors (poor home life, bad/weak parenting, wrong friends, psychological and self-esteem issues, and so on and so forth)?  How do you get those race-based statistics down when you don't actually have control over many of those root causes of misbehavior in your student population?  Think about it.
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From the same report:

"C. If the Department identifies a school’s discipline process as having a 
disproportionate impact on minority or special education students, the local school system 
shall prepare and present to the State Board a plan to reduce the disproportionate impact 
within 1 year and eliminate it within 3 years."

You have made it abundantly clear in this thread that you are capable of imagining exactly one idea for this plan: increasing suspensions for white students. I, on the other hand, can think of several more. For instance, if the disparity is the result of a broadly-defined offense, a good first step would be to narrow the definition. If two students commit the same action, that action should be defined as the same offense -- if it is an offense -- regardless of their racial group.  If punishments are not applied consistently between schools, implement requirements for consistency. Reduce suspensions by identifying an alternative punishment to suspension -- one that has less negative impact on the student's ability to receive an education. Look into preventing the causes of the offenses that lead to suspension.

[quote=Anonymous]
3) This is has never been an issue in the thread.  For, it has been I (certainly not you), that has first and foremost brought this up time and again as being the singular silver lining in this policy.  Do not claim this as your own.
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I am not claiming anything as my own, but asking a question. If you believe that an alternative to out-of-school suspensions would be beneficial, why do you oppose the actions taken in Maryland and Oakland? I understand that you learned about this via the Daily Caller. It was portrayed as a race-based discipline system. Yet, if you read the actual Maryland report, it is not that at all. Only your complete refusal to read the report with an open mind and seriously consider what is being required by the report prevents you from getting beyond your initial Daily Caller influenced understanding.

[quote=Anonymous]
Just because you run an internet board, doesn't mean that what you say on it is well-informed.  Please re-examine the the policy and think through its implications in the REAL world.
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What makes me well-informed is the fact that I have learned that you simply cannot trust the claims that come from publications such as the Daily Caller. Such publications find racial division beneficial. Their goal is not serious examination of public policy to understand its impact on society, but the exploitation of base tribal animosity. I read the Maryland report. The actual report that was voted upon and approved, not a draft. None of your original claims were shown to be true. Just like the Daily Caller, you chose extreme, racially-divisive language to say things that simply were not true.  You initially stated that "those sweet oriental kids are going to have to be suspended and expelled from schools at a rate that is equal to the rate that blacks are suspended, expelled, and otherwise punished...". Do you still stand by that statement? 
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