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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] I don’t see what’s wrong with a 20% service fee if it goes to the server. [/quote]

I do.  It's a hidden fee that should be included in the cost of the food.  And, unlike a regular tip, it can't be (easily) varied based upon the quality of the service.  I hate tipping, it's a terrible system, but it is the one that we have.  Expecting a regular tip is fine, but adding bogus non-negotiable fees is not.  I don't go to hotels that have "destination fees" or "resort fees" either, for the same reason.  It's dishonest.

And 20% is on the high end of tips.[b]  Every etiquette guide that I have read suggests that 15-20% is normal, assuming decent service.  I have no idea why anyone would tip 20% for "average" service.[/b]  That is crazy.[/quote]

Where the guides from the 80s%? 20% has been the standard for decades now [/quote]

No. 15% really is normal. 20% should be for outstanding service. And I'm a millennial. [/quote]

You are a cheap a$$. [/quote]

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